Watchdog recommends disciplining senior garda

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In the Times today:

THE GARDA Síochána Ombudsman Commission (GSOC) has recommended that disciplinary action be taken against a senior member of An Garda Síochána in relation to the handling of a protest over Corrib gas in north Mayo over two years ago.
Watchdog recommends disciplining senior garda - The Irish Times - Fri, Oct 30, 2009

The Times is shy of naming the brave Garda Superintendent, but I think it is obvious they are talking about Joe Gannon. He took the decision to break the lock on a gate with bolt cutters and use a JCB as a batterring ram to push local people out of the way so that Shell could erect a portacabin.

He was told at the time that he was crossing privately owned land without the permission of the landowner, but he appears to be claiming now that he was given "incorrect information". In another article in the Times, this one unsigned, Supt Gannon is credited with claiming that "he was unaware that a solicitor for the landowner was trying to contact him by telephone."

He was told by the owner of the land that his solicitor was on the phone and the mobile was held out to him. There is a difference between "unaware" and "didn't want to know"...
 
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Any bets that the "disciplinary action" willamount to paid suspension for a week or two and a firm finger wagging, if it is indeed Joe Gannon.
 

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That's apparently what they're recommending Cod. From the article "Where a breach is treated as “less serious”, the type of sanctions which may apply include reduction in pay not exceeding two weeks’ pay; a reprimand; a warning; a caution; or advice."

Now if he indeed was aware that he was crossing private property, then a simple slap on the wrist doesn't seem appropriate. He willfully broke the law, and should face tougher sanctions.
 

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. He willfully broke the law, and should face tougher sanctions.
Might be hard to convince a jury of sane people
 

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I don't think so. If the farmer and a few witnesses get up and say "He was informed this was private property and was offered a phone with the owner's solicitor on it" there's not a lot else you can argue about.
 

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If any member of An Garda Siochana is found to have willfully broken the law then he should be sacked immediately.

Zero tolerance is needed, how can we expect our young people to obey the law if the Gardai themselves are ignoring it.
 

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This picture shows the Superintendent (with red braid) talking with the landowner. The Garda behind him is holding a bolt cutters, with which they cut the lock off the gate to open access to his land.

 

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Shame.
 

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Might be hard to convince a jury of sane people
I'm by no means a flat-earther, believer in lizard people conspiracies, tinfolil-hat-wearer, Fianna-Fáil-excuser, or otherwise a believer in fantasies. But I do know how the gardaí operate and have always operated. leastways in my time on this poor planet (i.e. 50+ years).

So don't mind me asking, but when you say "sane people" do you mean it in the general sense of "people who are not crazy" or do you mean it in the Irish sense of "people who know better than to disbelieve a senior garda even when he's obviously lying through his teeth, because you will pay for it."

Because if it was me, I'd just believe the evidence.
 

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Just saw the photo. How on earth did that camera get it so wrong? And all them megapixels and all to use...?????
 

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This picture shows the Superintendent (with red braid) talking with the landowner. The Garda behind him is holding a bolt cutters, with which they cut the lock off the gate to open access to his land.

That photograph is Ireland. It belongs in every home in the place once occupied by a Sacred Heart picture or JFK and the Pope.
 

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The IDA/Enterprise Oirland might even put it up as a poster in the Arrival Halls of our airports to show foriegn investors how far we will go to help the likes of Shell.
 

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It seems the DPP is refusing to prosecute gardaí - I wonder why?


SOME 75 per cent of complaints made about policing aspects of the Corrib gas project were admitted for investigation by the Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission, and seven files were sent to the Director of Public Prosecutions.

However, the DPP would not accept evidence for criminal prosecution of gardaí in all seven cases and six of those cases were now “closed”, the commission’s head of communications Kieran FitzGerald told the ministerial northwest Mayo forum in Erris yesterday.

The seventh case was being pursued in “another investigative form”, Mr FitzGerald said.
he commission’s press spokesman, Graham Doyle, said a survey it had undertaken on reasons why people would not make complaints had identified two factors: people believed nothing would be done, or that it would make matters worse for them in relation to the Garda.

“That’s exactly what I am hearing here today,” Mr Doyle said.

Several members of the Rossport solidarity camp said that complainants were the subject of undue attention, even warrants, issued by gardaí after complaints had been made to the commission.

“We’ve been wounded and brutalised, and we feel we are wasting our time now talking to the Garda Ombudsman,” Winifred Macklin, a local resident, told Mr Doyle.
DPP sent seven files on Corrib policing - The Irish Times - Tue, Nov 03, 2009
 
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I know that a certain woman circuit judge up here in Mayo is very, very hard on any "Shell to Sea" protester brought before her. She is "sick and tired" of these protesters who do not seem to "represent" the local populace, but merely themselves.

Back in my late 20's I was arrested at least once a week by the cops at Greenham Common. Never went to court though, well, not in England anyway! Dublin Gardai and Irish courts were always harder however. I "shamed" the family name as my mam was wont to say, but feckit, it was after Bloody Sunday.
 

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short video of Winifred Macklin talking to the GSOC representative

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9w21g0QVOio"]YouTube - People's Forum with Garda Ombudsman[/ame]
 

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He was told at the time that he was crossing privately owned land without the permission of the landowner, but he appears to be claiming now that he was given "incorrect information". In another article in the Times, this one unsigned, Supt Gannon is credited with claiming that "he was unaware that a solicitor for the landowner was trying to contact him by telephone."

He was told by the owner of the land that his solicitor was on the phone and the mobile was held out to him. There is a difference between "unaware" and "didn't want to know"...
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5Vzjma5_jw"]YouTube - Supt. Joe Gannon refuses to speak to landowners solicitor at Pollathomais[/ame]
 

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Having personal experience of the Donegal corruption and how lightly all the corrupt cops involved were treated, I'm not surprised in the least at the events in Mayo.

The Gardaí are rotten, rotten to the core, and protected by their equally corrupt mates in the judiciary and the politicians, just like every other aspect of this stinking cesspit State.
 

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Having personal experience of the Donegal corruption and how lightly all the corrupt cops involved were treated, I'm not surprised in the least at the events in Mayo.

The Gardaí are rotten, rotten to the core, and protected by their equally corrupt mates in the judiciary and the politicians, just like every other aspect of this stinking cesspit State.
Ah tell us what you really think Sam.
 

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Its amazing how little interest this thread has received. If some Sheel 2 Sea protestors had been slammed by a watchdog we would have hundreds of hits on this thread. Were are the defenders of Shell and the Gardai now????
 
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