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We do not need to convince the "other side" that they are evil.


DavidCaldwell

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Some thoughts (prompted by discussion of the Finucane inquiry) that I believe are applicable to all sides in this and most other conflicts:-

We do not need to convince the "other side" that they are evil.

What we need, at its most basic, is for them not to want to attack or harm us.

It is very helpful if they come to believe that attacking or harming us is wrong.

If they come to believe this, it is actually helpful if they think of themselves as predominantly good people - it makes it more likely that they want to do the right thing.

Any thoughts?
 

factual

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Some thoughts (prompted by discussion of the Finucane inquiry) that I believe are applicable to all sides in this and most other conflicts:-

We do not need to convince the "other side" that they are evil.

What we need, at its most basic, is for them not to want to attack or harm us.

It is very helpful if they come to believe that attacking or harming us is wrong.

If they come to believe this, it is actually helpful if they think of themselves as predominantly good people - it makes it more likely that they want to do the right thing.

Any thoughts?
Very sensible.
 

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"They said I was ruthless, daring, savage, blood thirsty, even heartless. The clergy called me and my comrades murderers; but the British were met with their own weapons. They had gone in the mire to destroy us and our nation and down after them we had to go."
Tom Barry.

The same mindset was present throughout the Troubles David, on all sides. Make of that what you will concerning the human reaction to conflict.
 

DavidCaldwell

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To my mind, the key thing is to recognise that all sides in conflicts are humans with similar instincts etc. These instincts can sometimes lead to extremely bad results - the World Wars, for example - so we need to find ways of over-coming the human propensity to conflict. The rule of law is a very successful way, but it needed and still needs improvements in most jurisdictions. One of the key issues since the 17th Century is how to achieve these improvements.
 

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What is needed is a truth and reconciliation process like in South Africa.

Of course this will damage the British side more than the nationalist. To me PSF/IRA are murdering scum so nothing can make them look worse than I know them to be. Eg I believe Gerry Adams give the go ahead for the murder of Jean McConville.

The British establishment have a lot of hidden skeletons and the Irish establishment to a lesser extent.
 

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I am bumping this because it I would be very interested to hear Covenanter's thoughts on this OP.
 
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We do not need to convince the "other side" that they are evil.
Moi agrees the feckers already know it, but they have no shame...
 
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