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Wesley Snipes may face 16 years jail over tax offences


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US actor Wesley Snipes has pleaded not guilty to failing to pay tax since the 1990s, and for claiming millions of dollars in refunds. He has been released on a $1 million bond.

It seems as though our esteemed taoiseach isn't the only one with tax problems.

And people thinking tax problems aren't serious.

If convicted, Snipes faces up to 16 years in jail. :shock:

story here
 

CelloP

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He should count himself lucky he's not Chinese.

http://www.economist.com/displayStory.c ... d=10498179
Economist said:
Foreign human-rights groups make valiant efforts to scour local press reports and tally the sums, but reckon they hear about only a fraction of the cases. In 2006 Amnesty International, a human-rights lobbying group, counted 2,790 people sentenced to death in China and 1,010 executed. Other groups put annual executions at 7,500 or more. Even per head, using low estimates, China probably outstrips every country but Singapore. It also has a greater number of capital offences than anywhere else: more than 60. These include murder and other violent crimes, but also smuggling, drug trafficking and many “economic crimes” such as bribe-taking, embezzlement and even tax evasion.

...

In any event, China's interest in treating criminals more humanely has limits. This month the chief justice, Xiao Yang, said China might one day like to abolish capital punishment altogether. But that day would not dawn soon, because Chinese people believe strongly in the notion of an “eye for an eye and a life for a life”. Not to mention tax evasion, of course.
 

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Isnt it the case (and was tested in the US Supreme Court) that it is constitutionally illegal to tax a person's labour. Only that the IRS has guns and the Judges in the courts go along with this fraud.

-As per "America Freedom to Fascism". There is essentially no law requiring people to pay income tax only tax on corporate profits.

Youngdan what do you say?
 

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Destiny's Soldier said:
Isnt it the case (and was tested in the US Supreme Court) that it is constitutionally illegal to tax a person's labour. Only that the IRS has guns and the Judges in the courts go along with this fraud.

-As per "America Freedom to Fascism". There is essentially no law requiring people to pay income tax only tax on corporate profits.

Youngdan what do you say?
It said so in that conspiracy film Zeitgeist anyway.
 
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Wesley Snipes "Please don't send me to prison. They pee in a cup and then throw it on you, I saw it in a movie."
FBI AGENT "You won't be seeing any prison movies where you're going, PRISON."
 

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Destiny's Soldier said:
Isnt it the case (and was tested in the US Supreme Court) that it is constitutionally illegal to tax a person's labour. Only that the IRS has guns and the Judges in the courts go along with this fraud.
The only links I could find googling that support that view (and none I came across quoted a ruling by the Supreme Court to the effect you state) seem to be weird blogs from loonies with more opinions than facts

Destiny's Soldier said:
-As per "America Freedom to Fascism". There is essentially no law requiring people to pay income tax only tax on corporate profits.
Never heard of the movie before, but Wiki entry on it is quite entertaining...

Russo's promotional materials state that the film was shown at "Cannes" in France. As of July 31, 2006, the web site (at www.freedomtofascism.com) states:

America: Freedom to Fascism Opens to Standing Ovations at Cannes!

The international audience at Cannes as well as the European media has been fascinated by Russo’s fiery diatribe against the direction America is heading [ . . . ]

According to a New York Times article by David Cay Johnston on July 31, 2006, however, the film was not "on the program" at the 2006 Cannes Film Festival itself; Russo actually rented an inflatable screen and showed the film on the beach at the town of Cannes during the time of the film festival. The New York Times article states: "Photographs posted at one of Mr. Russo's Web sites depict an audience of fewer than 50 people spread out on a platform on the sand."[16]
Through interviews with various individuals including former IRS agents, Russo sets forth the tax protester argument that, "there is no law requiring an income tax", and that the personal income tax is illegally enforced to support the activities of the Federal Reserve System. The film refers to both article 1 section 8 of the U.S. Constitution, which grants Congress the right to impose taxes, and the Sixteenth Amendment, which removes any apportionment requirement. The film disputes the legitimacy of the Amendment and contends, through a series of interviews, that there is no law imposing the income tax.

One of the listed stars of the film, Irwin Schiff, was sentenced on February 24, 2006 to 13 years and 7 months in prison for tax evasion and ordered to pay over $4.2 million in restitution.[6] In pre-sentencing documents filed with the court, Schiff's lawyers had argued that he had a mental disorder related to his beliefs about taxation. Initially, the film portrays Mr. Schiff as a tax "expert," though his qualifications and those of many other "experts" in the film are not mentioned. It is not until later that the film reveals Mr. Schiff has gone to jail.

Mr. Schiff appears in the film for another reason as well. The filmmaker lampoons Judge Kent Dawson's reaction to Schiff's defense. The film alleges that the judge "denied Irwin the ability to prove to a jury that there was no law requiring Americans to file an income tax return. He denied Irwin the right to attempt to prove to a jury there was no law . . . by stating, 'I will not allow the law in my courtroom.'" At 0:48:28 of the film, Mr. Russo introduces the judge and his statement.

Under the U.S. legal system, the general rule (with exceptions) is that neither side in a civil or criminal case is allowed to try to prove to the jury what the law is. For example, in a murder case the defendant is not generally allowed to persuade the jury that there is no law against murder, or to try to interpret the law for the jury. Likewise, the prosecution is not allowed to try to persuade the jury about what the law is, or how it should be interpreted. Disagreements about what the law is are argued by both sides before the judge, who then makes a ruling. Prior to jury deliberations, the judge, and only the judge, instructs the jury on the law.[7]
As of late July 2006, Aaron Russo's biography on his website for the film stated: "The film is an exposé of the Internal Revenue Service, and proves conclusively there is no law requiring an American citizen to pay a direct unapportioned Tax on their labor." [9] [12]

The New York Times article of July 31, 2006 states that when Mr. Russo asked IRS spokesman Anthony Burke (who according to the article was credited by Russo in the film) for the law requiring payment of income taxes on wages and was provided a link to various documents including title 26 of the United States Code (the Internal Revenue Code), filmmaker Russo denied that title 26 was the law, contending that it consisted only of IRS "regulations" and had not been enacted by Congress. The article reports that in an interview in late July 2006, Russo claimed he was confident on this point. In the United States "statutes" are enacted by Congress, and "regulations" are promulgated by the executive branch of government to implement the statutes. The statutes are found in the United States Code; and the regulations are found in the Code of Federal Regulations. The Treasury regulations to which Mr. Russo may have been referring are found at title 26 ("Internal Revenue") of the Code of Federal Regulations [10], not title 26 of the United States Code.[13] The argument that the Internal Revenue Code is not law, the argument that the Internal Revenue Code is not "positive law," and variations of these arguments, have been officially identified as legally frivolous Federal tax return positions for purposes of the $5,000 frivolous tax return penalty imposed under Internal Revenue Code section 6702(a).[14]

The article also discloses that Russo had over $2 million of tax liens filed against him by the Internal Revenue Service, the state of California, and the state of New York for unpaid taxes. In an interview with the New York Times; however, Russo refused to discuss the liens, saying they were not relevant to his film.[15]
Excellent stuff!!
 

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He should get his ass over to Ireland asap - there's no way he'd be extradited from Ireland to the US for something as trivial as tax evasion.
 

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<Mod>Moved to Foreign Affairs.</Mod>
 

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This quote is priceless:
Schiff's lawyers had argued that he had a mental disorder related to his beliefs about taxation.
That sort of sums up Russo too. Though Aaron Russo cannot be dismissed as a right wing nut, his idiology has alot in common with the non establishment far right in America, who are anti-government, anti-tax etc etc.

Here is a decent article on the No Tax movement in America, even if its on the ADL website:
http://www.adl.org/learn/ext_us/TPM.asp?LEARN_Cat=Extremism&LEARN_SubCat=Extremism_in_America&xpicked=4&item=21

To quote:
Origins: 1950s
Background: An anti-government movement that believes that income taxes are illegitimate
Ideology: Anti-government, some white supremacist elements
Outreach: Books, manuals, seminars, radio shows, Web sites
Favorite arguments: Filing tax returns violates Fifth Amendment rights; the Sixteenth Amendment was never properly ratified; wages are not income; income taxes are voluntary; income taxes apply only to residents of Washington, D.C., and certain other limited areas
Criminal activity: Overall level of criminal activity is high, consisting mostly of attempts at tax evasion. Some tax protesters have engaged in large-scale scams and frauds. Violent incidents are also well-documented.
 

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I don't think they will send Snipes to jail, they will just cryogenically freeze him like in Demolition Man so he is awoken in the far future to face the interest on his tax bill. :lol:
 

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From what I hear the US tax people are starkers. They regularly raid people's homes armed to the teeth.

Thank god the good people at revenue.ie are more civilized.
Says a lot about the differences between Irish culture and US culture I suppose?
 

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lostexpectation said:
was reading about some creationist preacher who get sent to jail over not paying his taxes kent hovind. thought god would sort it out
:lol: :lol: :lol:
 

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seabhcan said:
From what I hear the US tax people are starkers. They regularly raid people's homes armed to the teeth.

Thank god the good people at revenue.ie are more civilized.
Yeah right! They just let people evade paying tax for years :roll:
 

Aindriu

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He has been given 3 years link
 

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He's free! Ish. He's under house arrest for the next few years. I'm guessing we'll be seeing Blade 4,5 and 6 in short order, man needs the money.
 
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