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Gurdiev77

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Is it time for SF to take up their Westminster seats, on a temporary 'emergency ' basis. ?

Surely there was never a better time to make use of them . Could a special dispensation be made due to the Brexit crisis to take the seats for the duration of the current administration,

DUP are making good use of theirs'.
 


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No it isn't. For the millionth time! If nationalists in the North want their MP to take their Westminster seat they will vote SDLP, the fact that they haven't should tell you something.
 

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You want to know how the Tories can win a 150 seat majority in Westminster?

You get Sinn Féin to take their seats and try to intervene with Brexit. That's all.
 

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Is it time for SF to take up their Westminster seats, on a temporary 'emergency ' basis. ?

Surely there was never a better time to make use of them . Could a special dispensation be made due to the Brexit crisis to take the seats for the duration of the current administration,

DUP are making good use of theirs'.
It's déjà vu all over again...:rolleyes:
 

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Sinn Fein say they will not take their seats in a foreign parliament or take an oath of allegiance to the British monarch. But they have no problem standing for election to a foreign parliament and taking the money on offer. They are a shower of hypocrites with ideas more suited to 1918 than 2018. And of course it demonstrates the mind set of the people who vote for them.
 

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Sinn Fein say they will not take their seats in a foreign parliament or take an oath of allegiance to the British monarch. But they have no problem standing for election to a foreign parliament and taking the money on offer. They are a shower of hypocrites with ideas more suited to 1918 than 2018. And of course it demonstrates the mind set of the people who vote for them.

The people have spoken....the bastárds...:rolleyes:
 

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If Westminster would be prepared to lower the bar of the oath to the monarch then it would be possible.

It has always been weird anyway given the history of parliament versus monarch that parliamentarians should have to give an oath to its philosophical opposition in terms of systems of government.

Parliamentarians should only recognise the will of the people as expressed by plebiscite.
 

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Sinn Fein say they will not take their seats in a foreign parliament or take an oath of allegiance to the British monarch. But they have no problem standing for election to a foreign parliament and taking the money on offer. They are a shower of hypocrites with ideas more suited to 1918 than 2018. And of course it demonstrates the mind set of the people who vote for them.
They don't take salaries & don't swear an oath to a foreign monarch.

Seems reasonable.

As pointed out above, if thew did turn up & vote, the Brexiteers would go ape-s41t.

"Terrorists sabotage Brexit"???

How well would that work?
 

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Why should an MP from Bolton who owes his seat to the constituents there profess loyalty in service to a lady who lives in Windsor?

Seems a bit daft when you think about it.
 

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Sinn Fein say they will not take their seats in a foreign parliament or take an oath of allegiance to the British monarch. But they have no problem standing for election to a foreign parliament and taking the money on offer. They are a shower of hypocrites with ideas more suited to 1918 than 2018. And of course it demonstrates the mind set of the people who vote for them.
Isn't it awful ALL those teachers, lawyers, doctors, dentists, business owners etc in the North who vote for them? PPFFFFFF......the mindset of these people !
 

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Why should an MP from Bolton who owes his seat to the constituents there profess loyalty in service to a lady who lives in Windsor?

Seems a bit daft when you think about it.
An argument against Monarchy? She represents "the country" - a country that SF voters (me too if I lived in the North) have no loyalty to.
 

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Is it time for SF to take up their Westminster seats, on a temporary 'emergency ' basis. ?

Surely there was never a better time to make use of them . Could a special dispensation be made due to the Brexit crisis to take the seats for the duration of the current administration,

DUP are making good use of theirs'.
Nope. The SDLP were in Westminster for thirty years and were utterly ineffectual in advancing the nationalist cause in that particular venue. The only time a Nationalist MP made any telling difference in Westminster was when Frank Maguire got off his sick bed to "abstain in person" and help bring down Callaghan. And for that, we got Thatcher.

Secondly, and another poster has made the point, the headlines would scream out of the front page "Outrage as Provo Scum Undermine British Democracy" and actually prove counterproductive.

Thirdly, the numbers don't stack up to permit this, and any SF involvement would surely send wavering remainers scurrying into the the bosom of the hardliners lest they be seen siding with themmuns.

Ain't going to happen, wont happen and shouldn't happen.
 

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They don't take salaries & don't swear an oath to a foreign monarch.

Seems reasonable.

As pointed out above, if thew did turn up & vote, the Brexiteers would go ape-s41t.

"Terrorists sabotage Brexit"???

How well would that work?
great if it helped lessen the impact.
 

Gurdiev77

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Why should an MP from Bolton who owes his seat to the constituents there profess loyalty in service to a lady who lives in Windsor?

Seems a bit daft when you think about it.
or an MP from Cornwall. Its anachronistic.

Could they cross their fingers behind their backs ?
 

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Nope. The SDLP were in Westminster for thirty years and were utterly ineffectual in advancing the nationalist cause in that particular venue. The only time a Nationalist MP made any telling difference in Westminster was when Frank Maguire got off his sick bed to "abstain in person" and help bring down Callaghan. And for that, we got Thatcher.

Secondly, and another poster has made the point, the headlines would scream out of the front page "Outrage as Provo Scum Undermine British Democracy" and actually prove counterproductive.

Thirdly, the numbers don't stack up to permit this, and any SF involvement would surely send wavering remainers scurrying into the the bosom of the hardliners lest they be seen siding with themmuns.

Ain't going to happen, wont happen and shouldn't happen.
Under normal circumstances I would agree with you. But Brexit is an extra-ordinary circumstance, with far reaching consequeces. Coupled with the absemce of the NI assembly , it seems like the future for NI is in the lap of the DUP kingmakers.
 

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