We’ve never had it as good

toughbutfair

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So many people are depressed , both in Ireland and around the world because they think the world is going to hell(figuratively). They see murder, rape, war, poverty, housing crises, health crises etc and feel the future will be bleak. However this is all wrong.

If you look at statistics over the last 500 years (or back to when available ,depending on the country) everything is getting better. We live far longer than our ancestors of just 100 years ago, men don’t work down mines breathing coal , our children are very unlikely to die in their infancy, Europe has never had as much peace as in the last 70 Years. Most people used to have no shoes, wore rags, were hungry and disease was rampant.

If you could pick any time in history to live in Ireland, or in a random country in the world, you would pick now.

Why are people reluctant to admit humanity’s progress ? Would such an admission reduce depression ? We are the lucky ones.
 


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So many people are depressed , both in Ireland and around the world because they think the world is going to hell(figuratively). They see murder, rape, war, poverty, housing crises, health crises etc and feel the future will be bleak. However this is all wrong.

If you look at statistics over the last 500 years (or back to when available ,depending on the country) everything is getting better. We live far longer than our ancestors of just 100 years ago, men don’t work down mines breathing coal , our children are very unlikely to die in their infancy, Europe has never had as much peace as in the last 70 Years. Most people used to have no shoes, wore rags, were hungry and disease was rampant.

If you could pick any time in history to live in Ireland, or in a random country in the world, you would pick now.

Why are people reluctant to admit humanity’s progress ? Would such an admission reduce depression ? We are the lucky ones.
You really are thick, the country is up to it's bollix in debt.
 

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HarshBuzz

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You really are thick, the country is up to it's bollix in debt.
It's stable, safe, clean, friendly, richer than 95% of the world.

Sure we can always do better but things are pretty damn good.
 
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There will always be those who see the glass as half empty - no matter how fortunate they are.
Dull, depressing people mostly
 

Dame_Enda

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There is still a lot of poverty and old people say people were happier in the olden days. Of course we hear about all the bad stuff but I think there was more of a sense of community in older more rural Ireland. People feel stressed out by job insecurity, and the Sword of Damocles that is zero-hours contracts. There is more personal freedom which is good, but globalisation helps the 1% avoid paying their fair share as they can hide their riches in an obscure offshore island or Switzerland. Younger people have less job security than their parents and grandparents. Incomes have risen but inflation has outstripped much of this.
 

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The trouble for Ireland is that

- it could have been so much better if we had played our cards right...

- but we left in the hands of the Knaves....:|
 

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Materially even the poorest person in the West today has a standard of living their counterparts 100 years ago could only have dreamed of. Still there seems to be a notion of ennui, or spiritual dissatisfaction, but this might be down to the fact that modern people simply have more time to be bored and discontented, I don't know.
Or they live longer and are bored by life itself. In Roman days an old man would be anyone over 40.
 

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There is still a lot of poverty and old people say people were happier in the olden days. Of course we hear about all the bad stuff but I think there was more of a sense of community in older more rural Ireland. People feel stressed out by job insecurity, and the Sword of Damocles that is zero-hours contracts. There is more personal freedom which is good, but globalisation helps the 1% avoid paying their fair share as they can hide their riches in an obscure offshore island or Switzerland. Younger people have less job security than their parents and grandparents. Incomes have risen but inflation has outstripped much of this.
Old people always says times were better in their youth. That's because they're old. Like is better in one's youth.
 

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1970's .... sure we were poor but we were happy.... and safe!
1970s we were so much better off than the 1950s there is just no comparison

But are we that much better off today in 2018

- than we were in 1998?

In fact we peaked about the year 2000

- & it aint never coming back...:|
 

Morgellons

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1970s we were so much better off than the 1950s there is just no comparison

But are we that much better off today in 2018

- than we were in 1998?

In fact we peaked about the year 2000

- & it aint never coming back...:|
One thing that keeps getting better is cheap air travel. I find it incredible that for less than a days wage the average person can fly over two hours to a sunnier climate-amazing!
 

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1970s we were so much better off than the 1950s there is just no comparison

But are we that much better off today in 2018

- than we were in 1998?

In fact we peaked about the year 2000

- & it aint never coming back...:|
You didn't have the internet (well, not much) back then.

Maybe it's to blame?
 

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1970's .... sure we were poor but we were happy.... and safe!
We were also dead 15 years earlier, not in a great place if you’re a woman looking for work, not a great place if you’re gay at all and with much higher instances of things like lung cancer etc etc.
 

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I still barely understand the amount and quality of free porn ...we truly live in a blessed age !

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Its way better. I couldnt have owned my own house, paid for through a mortgage I took out as a single woman, even 50 years ago, I would have needed a male signatory. Even assuming I could have earned enough by myself to qualify.

I would have been dependent on some eejit like you, cattlepest.

Modernity is so much better for women.
 

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So many people are depressed , both in Ireland and around the world because they think the world is going to hell(figuratively). They see murder, rape, war, poverty, housing crises, health crises etc and feel the future will be bleak. However this is all wrong.

If you look at statistics over the last 500 years (or back to when available ,depending on the country) everything is getting better. We live far longer than our ancestors of just 100 years ago, men don’t work down mines breathing coal , our children are very unlikely to die in their infancy, Europe has never had as much peace as in the last 70 Years. Most people used to have no shoes, wore rags, were hungry and disease was rampant.

If you could pick any time in history to live in Ireland, or in a random country in the world, you would pick now.

Why are people reluctant to admit humanity’s progress ? Would such an admission reduce depression ? We are the lucky ones.
We're seeing quite a number of messages like the above appearing in normal media in recent days, red flags to remind us that things truly are on the brink, like the British sailors who set sail for Falkland Islands full of jolly spirits, none of them thinking that war was REALLY on the cards, but three weeks later their ship was on the seabed, where it remains to this day, a war grave. Let everyone pay heed to just how dangerous these times are. The OP is a pro, paid to keep us proles chattering happily about inconsequential stuff, while around us the real world is shapeshifting into a bleak future that none of us ever expected
 


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