Wexford Woman Murdered - But No-one Will Be Charged. Why?

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Last year, a Wexford woman, Rebecca French, was murdered. Her body was tied up in the boot of her own car which was driven a short distance from the murder scene and set alight.

Very quickly, the gardai had arrested and subsequently charged a number of people with crimes associated with the murder.

Last week, one man who was to be tried for murder had a lesser plea accepted and the murder charge struck out. It was later stated that no-one will ever be charged with the woman's murder. There were 'technical issues' with the admissability of statements made.

Does anyone know how in God's name did this come about? Has our glorious Minister for Justice offered any explanation?

No murder charges over Rebecca French death - RT News
 


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At first glance since the legal arguments were on the dentention period it looks like the cops screwed up bigtime...

And now we have a case of four guards in the courts over an alleged assualt on a person and his mother within their home...

Donegal fiasco etc etc.... time for a serious overhaul of the gardai and a serious look at the calibre of people their recruiting...
 
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' technical legal difficulties' legal jargon which means the legal system made a hames of the proseqution and had to settle for a lesser charge. Happens all the time, don't hold your breath waiting for the minister to explain it as he 'doesn't comment on individual cease' except when the case has something to do with FF
 

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At first glance since the legal arguments were on the dentention period it looks like the cops screwed up bigtime...

And now we have a case of four guards in the courts over an alleged assualt on a person and his mother within their home...

Donegal fiasco etc etc.... time for a serious overhaul of the gardai and a serous look at the calibre of people their recruiting...
+1
 

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Yes I read about this I think the guys had been drinking as well and this was a factor also.

Its another disgrace -she has a daughter who will never have justice for her mother- is Joe Duffy setting up an account for her?
 

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The court was told in the absence of the jury that the men were not lawfully detained when crucial statements were made to gardaí. The statements were ruled inadmissible in the trial.
That's your answer.
 

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Saves the cost of a trial, I suppose. If this had gone up before Judge Patricia Ryan (Mrs Brian Lenihan), it would have been suspended sentences all around anyhow.
 

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' technical legal difficulties' legal jargon which means the legal system made a hames of the proseqution and had to settle for a lesser charge. Happens all the time, don't hold your breath waiting for the minister to explain it as he 'doesn't comment on individual cease' except when the case has something to do with FF


Yes, that appears to be the inference OK.

But, in this day and age, with murder rates as high as they are, SURELY the legal system should be reliable?

It is not as if murder is a rarity anymore.
 

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' technical legal difficulties' legal jargon which means the legal system made a hames of the proseqution and had to settle for a lesser charge. Happens all the time, don't hold your breath waiting for the minister to explain it as he 'doesn't comment on individual cease' except when the case has something to do with FF
This is the same mininster who courageously leads the forces of the state against blasphemers and immigrants. The same one who offers excuses as to why crooked bankers are still enjoying holidays in their Spanish villas: "Gardai doing the best they can ... very complex matter.... lot of documentation ... blah .. blah ... blah ..."
 

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Yes, that appears to be the inference OK.

But, in this day and age, with murder rates as high as they are, SURELY the legal system should be reliable?

It is not as if murder is a rarity anymore.
Whoever is reponsible for the balls up should be dealt with accordingly, don't hold your breath for that either.
 

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We're confusing two separate cases here. The Gaffney case is not related to the Wexford murder, so far as I know.
 

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We're confusing two separate cases here. The Gaffney case is not related to the Wexford murder, so far as I know.

100% correct.

If I wanted to start an anti-cop thread per se I would have titled it 'all coppers are bar stewards, let's discuss.'

I am genuinely concerned to know what EXACTLY led to the collapse of the trial for murder.

And more importantly, what is/has been done to prevent yet another screw-up.
 
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i am genuinely concerned to know what exactly led to the collapse of the trial for murder.

And more importantly, what is/has been done to prevent yet another screw-up.
+100
 

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The law is the law.
If there is a problem with evidence - if it is found to be obtained illegally - it cannot be used in the trial and if the remaining evidence is not enough to convict then the case is thrown out.
End of story.
The law exists to ensure a fair trial.
If any one of us were on trial we would be entitled to that.
 

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This was discussed on Pat Kenny's radio show on Tuesday.

Here's the link to show - second item in.

http://www.rte.ie/radio1/todaywithpatkenny/2010-10-19.html

I believe the legal techincality arose because the arrested men were under the influence of alcohol when they were initially questioned and made statements.

Seems to also have something to do with confusion surrounding rest periods while in detention.
 

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Ok, but how the hell did the screw-up happen? Is there to be an enquiry? Who will be held accountable?

Once again, an arm of the State has it seems, failed.

That is the problem. No-one ever seems to be held accountable for these screw-ups.
 

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The law is the law.
If there is a problem with evidence - if it is found to be obtained illegally - it cannot be used in the trial and if the remaining evidence is not enough to convict then the case is thrown out.
End of story.
The law exists to ensure a fair trial.
If any one of us were on trial we would be entitled to that.
HOW and WHY were there problems with the evidence? They are my questions.

Other than that, you are stating the obvious.
 


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