What about "Ireland and Luxembourg"? They "don't get touched".

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Mohamed Khaliel, founder of Islamix (Undestanding, Tolerance, Peace) was being interviewed on Sky News this morning about the most recent terrorist attacks in the UK. He starts by making an allusion to foreign policy (0:58mins to 1:40mins) as being a major issue without explaining what he means.

Later on at 5:25mins, he questions the idea that the attackers are rejecting western values. "What about countries in the western sphere that don't get touched?", he asks going on to specifically mention Ireland and Luxembourg.

Does he have a point? Do certain countries bring these attacks upon themselves? And what about Sweden? It arguably has had more accommodating policies than any other European country and yet it has been "touched" by Islamist terrorism.

[video=youtube;34SBNYza3Zg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34SBNYza3Zg[/video]
 


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Indeed, what about Sweden?

And Ireland has been touched, several Irish people were killed in that massacre in Tunisia
 

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Indeed, what about Sweden?

And Ireland has been touched, several Irish people were killed in that massacre in Tunisia
There has been no Islamist attack on Irish soil, though.
 

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Sweden has a dirty little secret. It sells arms to Israel, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and the UAE.
 

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There has been no Islamist attack on Irish soil, though.
I wouldn't read too much into that, and certainly wouldn't be complacent. As far as those guys are concerned we are all infidels.
 

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Ireland was attacked for 800 years according to history.
Perhaps the Islamic people feel that little auld Ireland has suffered enough.
 

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Mohamed Khaliel, founder of Islamix (Undestanding, Tolerance, Peace) was being interviewed on Sky News this morning about the most recent terrorist attacks in the UK. He starts by making an allusion to foreign policy (0:58mins to 1:40mins) as being a major issue without explaining what he means.

Later on at 5:25mins, he questions the idea that the attackers are rejecting western values. "What about countries in the western sphere that don't get touched?", he asks going on to specifically mention Ireland and Luxembourg.

Does he have a point? Do certain countries bring these attacks upon themselves? And what about Sweden? It arguably has had more accommodating policies than any other European country and yet it has been "touched" by Islamist terrorism.

[video=youtube;34SBNYza3Zg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34SBNYza3Zg[/video]
Well this goes back to the fallacy that the right tried to push and the left relies on that the Muslim community is one and the same.
It is not. If you have Shia or Sunni is one difference. Then their are differences by country. Some countries have not had the wahhabi poison for a long time others have.
If you try to treat Islam different to other religions you will end up where we are now.
If Islam is treated the same then it will be a bit rough at the start as the extremists protest about having to adhere to the finer points of hate law and such but you will have begun to nip the bud.

All this pretense has to go first though.
 
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Nigerian Muslim I worked with a few years ago had a surpisingly positive view on Ireland as many people have met don't know we exist.

When I asked How and Why he said when he growing up in 1980's the only health care facility for miles around was run by Irish nuns.
His baby sister would have died were it not for they walking 30 miles carrying her and the treatment the nuns gave to her and the rest of the family that carried her.
Nobody else was proving health care and nobody else cared.

Asked him jokingly if they tried to convert him, he said they never even tried, they engaged in providing healthcare.
 

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I wouldn't read too much into that, and certainly wouldn't be complacent. As far as those guys are concerned we are all infidels.
I'm not saying we have any reason to be complacent. I'm just saying that the Tunisia attack was not aimed at Irish people; it was aimed at western tourists in general.
 

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Ireland has had no attack but small as the risk is there is a chance that Ireland will get it's due for the Shannon fly zone and marriage equality. They have reasons to hate us whether they feel it's Worth a strike here or not is an other thing.
 

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Which country it is is irrelevant, these guys will attack whoever they want to attack, no country is safe.
 

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It is hardly a coincidence that the countries which have been attacked have all made themselves targets and have angered the Jihadists in one way or another.
 

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Ireland has had no attack but small as the risk is there is a chance that Ireland will get it's due for the Shannon fly zone and marriage equality. They have reasons to hate us whether they feel it's Worth a strike here or not is an other thing.
We are a handy hideout with easy access to bigger targets
 

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Well this goes back to the fallacy that the right tried to push and the left relies on that the Muslim community is one and the same.
It is not. If you have Shia or Sunni is one difference. Then their are differences by country. Some countries have not had the wahhabi poison for a long time others have.
If you try to treat Islam different to other religions you will end up where we are now.
If Islam is treated the same then it will be a bit rough at the start as the extremists protest about having to adhere to the finer points of hate law and such but you will have begun to nip the bud.

All this pretense has to go first though.
I've been trying to make the point in other threads that the term "Islamist terror" ignores the fact that it's not coming from Shia Islam, Ibadi Islam or Ahmadi Islam. It's pretty much exclusively coming from the Sunnis.
 


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