What are Navy doing to end Dublin Port blockade

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Apparently a group of dock workers are blockading Dublin Port, obviously this is illegal, so why aren't either the Gardai or the Navy breaking the blockade?

This is incredibly serious as such a blockade stops trade in and out of most of Ireland, although there are alternative routes via northern Ireland.
 


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Apparently a group of dock workers are blockading Dublin Port, obviously this is illegal, so why aren't either the Gardai or the Navy breaking the blockade?

This is incredibly serious as such a blockade stops trade in and out of most of Ireland, although there are alternative routes via northern Ireland.
Obviously illegal? What precise law would you say they're breaking here?

And the navy won't be involved because we don't use the military to sort out industrial disputes.
 

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no doubt the Gardai will look the other way, and say they need a court order, like they do with every vested interest group that illegally blocks roads, access points, etc
Maybe they do need a court order.... What law exactly are they breaking by the way?

Its not the Gardai or a military role to intervene in a trade dispute. Would you be quite as Attila the Hun if the (unionised) Gardai decided the employer was acting illegally in the first place and dealt with him?
 

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no doubt the Gardai will look the other way, and say they need a court order, like they do with every vested interest group that illegally blocks roads, access points, etc
"vested interest groups" [banksters,fraudsters, FF gangsters] have been acting illegally for years but not 1 has been up in court, unlike dockers & travel shop workers trying to protect jobs. Gardai will look the other way - too right!
 

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Surely all this is perfectly normal.

Im All Right Jack O,Connor and SIPTU run Ireland.This is incontestable.

Gardai,Military and Government Leaders are all duty bound to respect
every diktat from this great man and his patriotic organisation.

The great lumpen private sector proletariat will continue to feed the new mandarin public sector class and woe betide those who stand in the way of their new found ascendancy status.
 
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it's illegal to block any road, sea route etc. In fact, the sea blockade by the united states against the soviets in the cuban missile crisis was, by definition, an act of war.

Are the unions declaring war on the state?
lol, are you for real!
 

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Apparently a group of dock workers are blockading Dublin Port, obviously this is illegal, so why aren't either the Gardai or the Navy breaking the blockade?

This is incredibly serious as such a blockade stops trade in and out of most of Ireland, although there are alternative routes via northern Ireland.
Good point, It would appear ZANU-FF kowtow to the Mighty Unions that have dragged us to the precipice
 

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It's illegal to block any road, sea route etc. In fact, the sea blockade by the United States against the Soviets in the Cuban Missile Crisis was, by definition, an act of war.

Are the unions declaring war on the state?
The worrying thing is that I think you mean that....

Do you accept the principal that the state should remain neutral and impartial in disputes, including trade ones?
 
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Glad to see some people refuse to lie down and take it...

I hope to see much more of this in the near future.

I was back home for 5 weeks recently and it became clear to me then that those b@stards who are brazenly bailing out the bankers and developers (yer man from Zoe had the backing of all his Irish creditors), need to be removed.

Don't stop at the port people, blockade the Dail!
 
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Obviously illegal? What precise law would you say they're breaking here?

And the navy won't be involved because we don't use the military to sort out industrial disputes.
Did during Tanker drivers dispute 25 plus years ago.
 
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Apparently a group of dock workers are blockading Dublin Port, obviously this is illegal, so why aren't either the Gardai or the Navy breaking the blockade?

This is incredibly serious as such a blockade stops trade in and out of most of Ireland, although there are alternative routes via northern Ireland.
what do you want the navy to do?? torpedo the lads?
i reckon the navy would be 100% behind the lads down there after all they're all state employees who have been getting a raw deal lately as we all have to pay for the economic treason that has been going on in this country
 

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fool said:
Obviously illegal? What precise law would you say they're breaking here?
Section 14 ("Endangering Traffic") of the Non-Fatal Offences Against the Person Act
Non-Fatal Offences Against the Person Act, 1997, Section 14

A person shall be guilty of an offence who—

( a ) intentionally places or throws any dangerous obstruction upon a railway, road, street, waterway or public place or interferes with any machinery, signal, equipment or other device for the direction, control or regulation of traffic thereon, or interferes with or throws anything at or on any conveyance used or to be used thereon, and

( b ) is aware that injury to the person or damage to property may be caused thereby, or is reckless in that regard.

(2) In this section—

"conveyance" means any conveyance constructed or adapted for the carriage of a person or persons or of goods by land or water;

"railway" means a railway, a tramway, or a light railway or any part of a railway, tramway or light railway;

"waterway" means any route upon water used by any conveyance.

(3) A person guilty of an offence under this section shall be liable—

( a ) on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding £1,500 or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 12 months or to both, or

( b ) on conviction on indictment to a fine or to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 7 years or to both.


*Closes eyes and waits for posts making the point that x, y and z were allowed to block traffic without getting hauled off to the Bridewell*
 

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Libero, one could blockade a port without breaking that law.

All you have to do is picket the equipment for loading/unloading ships and attaching them to the dockside.
And that's a straightforward industrial action that doesn't interfere with either the highway or the waterway.
 

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Libero, one could blockade a port without breaking that law.

All you have to do is picket the equipment for loading/unloading ships and attaching them to the dockside.
And that's a straightforward industrial action that doesn't interfere with either the highway or the waterway.
Read sub-section (a) again...
"or interferes with any machinery, signal, equipment or other device for the direction, control or regulation of traffic thereon [the waterway], or interferes with or throws anything at or on any conveyance used or to be used thereon"

I haven't seen the protest myself but RTÉ are reporting it as "Dockers blocking Dublin Port traffic" RTÉ News: Dockers blocking Dublin Port traffic
"Approximately 40 dockers in five 17ft boats are attempting to block vessels entering and exiting Dublin Port."

I am not "anti" the dockers at all, and I'd expect their dominant emotion is desperation rather than malice, but are you asking us to believe that they are on those boats just to catch some sea air and wave friendly greetings at passing vessels (that just happen to have difficulty getting through)?
 

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The picket could still work without breaking subsection (a).

However I take your point regarding RTÉ's description of the protest.

Calling in the navy would be hugely counterproductive, though.
 


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