What does religion contribute to society

The Field Marshal

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I'm not persuaded that this was, or is, the case.

The OP referred to society determining morality and values. We know, and you of all posters here, how this experiment fared.

One final point, if society A determines its morals and values and society B determines a different set of morals and values, or society B adopts the same morals values as society A, but to a different standard.
Who, or what determines which society is more moral?
The Nazis believed in the absolute superiority of the Ayran race. It’s ethics, moral values were pre-eminent and all other value systems were subordinated to the point of physical extinction .
The Nazi creed was supported by millions of west Europeans as being right.

Others disagreed and the result was world war as we know.
All sides believed sincerely in what they were doing.

Yet no side really wanted war or the levels of human carnage that actually happened.

The reason war happened was the absence of an agreed moral code on the value of all human life and a widespread rejection of fundamental objective Christian principles .
 


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They did it in the name of religion, didn't they?

A bit like Torquemada, really.
But what stopped them performing ritual human sacrifice.?
Answer firstly the physical imposition of Catholic values.
But secondly the free acceptance by their societies that these catholic moral values were both true and superior to their pagan ways.

But you poster statesman believe in killing unborn children so I don’t think you are in a position to moralize on anything.
 

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Er, that was a religious practice :roll:
Yes.
But it was stopped physically by a superior religious practice.

Why have these people not returned to that practice..?

The only answer is that they freely accept what they were doing was wrong and contrary to some superior value system.
That value system is Catholicism .

There is no other answer.
 

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Yes.
But it was stopped physically by a superior religious practice.

Why have these people not returned to that practice..?

The only answer is that they freely accept what they were doing was wrong and contrary to some superior value system.
That value system is Catholicism .

There is no other answer.
So, my religion good, your religion bad, basically.
 

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So, my religion good, your religion bad, basically.
You believe in killing unborn innocent children.
You think that is morally acceptable.

I reject that as being wrong and a fundamental denial of human rights.

Yours is not religion but death , destruction and negativity of a primal nature.

I expect you wish to extend your death cult to any less than perfect living human.

What you are is a Nazi in the mould of Richard Rheinhardt the Hangman.
That was his religion and now it is yours.
 

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Cental Americans also like to shoot politicians 113 have been killed in the run up to the Mexican elections.
 

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You believe in killing unborn innocent children.
You think that is morally acceptable.

I reject that as being wrong and a fundamental denial of human rights.

Yours is not religion but death , destruction and negativity of a primal nature.

I expect you wish to extend your death cult to any less than perfect living human.

What you are is a Nazi in the mould of Richard Rheinhardt the Hangman.
That was his religion and now it is yours.
Godwinist loon.
 

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Enjoy.

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The Spanish inquisition itself was to bureaucratic to be effective it had to much paperwork there were however other political bodies.
 

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Godwinist loon.
You ideologically support ,on your own admission ,several times , the National Socialist policy of exterminating unfit members of society.

That is your new religion as it was theirs.
It is an inevitable consequence of rejecting Christian ideology which is what binds you to them.
 

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The Nazis believed in the absolute superiority of the Ayran race. It’s ethics, moral values were pre-eminent and all other value systems were subordinated to the point of physical extinction .
The Nazi creed was supported by millions of west Europeans as being right.

Others disagreed and the result was world war as we know.
All sides believed sincerely in what they were doing.

Yet no side really wanted war or the levels of human carnage that actually happened.

The reason war happened was the absence of an agreed moral code on the value of all human life and a widespread rejection of fundamental objective Christian principles .
Was Hitler not a committed Catholic?
 

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You ideologically support ,on your own admission ,several times , the National Socialist policy of exterminating unfit members of society.

That is your new religion as it was theirs.
It is an inevitable consequence of rejecting Christian ideology which is what binds you to them.
Tuam. Sewers.
 

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Thank you for providing the forum with your address .
No doubt you will soon receive correspondence.
Well done Jeremy.

The problem with your howling is catholicism is equally as guilty of most of the nefarious activity you are triggered by.
 

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Was Hitler not a committed Catholic?
You and many other lapsed Catholics on this forum share an abiding hatred of the church with the late Adolph Hitler.
Indeed contempt for human life was a central trait of Mr Hitlers character , again a feature exhibited by many lapsed Catholics.
 


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