What does religion contribute to socity

The Field Marshal

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Well done Jeremy.

The problem with your howling is catholicism is equally as guilty of most of the nefarious activity you are triggered by.
To Buachail Dana, The sewers, Tuam , Co Galway.

Catholicism as an abstract noun can not be guilty of anything.
Look up the word because you do not know what it means.

Regards TFM.
 


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That's telling him. That third level degree wasn't wasted.
The problem with superficial posters like statesman ,buachaill dana etc is their hatred of Catholic absolute moral principles.
When these are rejected systems like Nazism, communism flourish with a concomitant contempt of human life.
Especially any human life that is less than perfect or which might place burdens on society.

Very sadly this has just also happened in Ireland.
It is the culture of death now openly rejoiced in and supported by a majority of the Irish electorate.
 

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The problem with superficial posters like statesman ,buachaill dana etc is their hatred of Catholic absolute moral principles.
When these are rejected systems like Nazism, communism flourish with a concomitant contempt of human life.
Especially any human life that is less than perfect or which might place burdens on society.

Very sadly this has just also happened in Ireland.
It is the culture of death now openly rejoiced in and supported by a majority of the Irish electorate.
Your so called absolute moral principles dumped babies in sewers. Don't lecture us on death culture.
 

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Your so called absolute moral principles dumped babies in sewers. Don't lecture us on death culture.
To Buachaill Dana. The Sewers. Tuam. Co. Galway.

Dear Sir.
The babies you refer to were not murdered but died of natural causes.
If their remains were disposed of as you allege that is something to be regretted .
I understand though that you are entirely in favour of eliminating such problems by killing most such babies prior to birth.
As you know most of these babies were born to unmarried girls.
The new Ireland that you constantly advocate will not have problems like this again.
Yours etc.
TFM.
 

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We all know the difference between right and wrong , what we should do and what we should not do

If you take the practical ideas away, which are contained across the board in all religious ,what are we left with?
Moral laws and values are something that should start in every home and spread through a community.Does society really need a religion to "guide us".

Under the current religious model we have widespread abuse , an archaic view on women , paedophile priests been given protection, Cries of bankruptcy in regard to payment of redress, homophobia , charity spin offs with tax issues, Christina Gallagher type character's mopping up the gravy that surrounds the main course etc etc ,

Leaving out the Moral teachings ,What does religion contribute to society that we cannot obtain elsewhere?



Religious groups still owe
It's important to know the parameters what you want to discuss.

The definitions of religion are -
the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods.
/
a particular system of faith and worship.
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a pursuit or interest followed with great devotion.

Etc.

What's yours?

"Leaving out the moral teachings"? Did you read your own op?
 

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We all know the difference between right and wrong , what we should do and what we should not do

If you take the practical ideas away, which are contained across the board in all religious ,what are we left with?
Moral laws and values are something that should start in every home and spread through a community.Does society really need a religion to "guide us".

Under the current religious model we have widespread abuse , an archaic view on women , paedophile priests been given protection, Cries of bankruptcy in regard to payment of redress, homophobia , charity spin offs with tax issues, Christina Gallagher type character's mopping up the gravy that surrounds the main course etc etc ,

Leaving out the Moral teachings ,What does religion contribute to society that we cannot obtain elsewhere?



Religious groups still owe
I suppose it is handy as a guide for the adult but really stupid in the land who are unlikely to ever know the difference between right and wrong without a man in a frock telling them.

Think of it as a sort of Last of the Summer Wine Guidance System for Complete Gobshytes.
 

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Your so called absolute moral principles dumped babies in sewers. Don't lecture us on death culture.
When will we hear of the plans for the disposal of aborted children? Will it be ovens, skips or "research"?

What's your own preference?
 

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To Buachaill Dana. The Sewers. Tuam. Co. Galway.

Dear Sir.
The babies you refer to were not murdered but died of natural causes.
If their remains were disposed of as you allege that is something to be regretted .
I understand though that you are entirely in favour of eliminating such problems though by killing such babies prior to birth.
As you know most of these babies were born to unmarried girls.
The new Ireland that you constantly advocate will not have alleged problems like this again.
Yours etc.
TFM.
Be regretted?

Hypocrite.

Telepathically talk to your bearded sky fairy all you want. You don't have the right to enforce your superstition on the rest of us.
 

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Be regretted?

Hypocrite.

Telepathically talk to your bearded sky fairy all you want. You don't have the right to enforce your superstition on the rest of us.
To Buachaill Dana, The Sewers, Tuam, Co . Galway.

Dear Sir.
Re the alleged dumping of dead babies bodies etc I have informed you that these infants born to unmarried died in childbirth or shortly thereafter from natural causes.
As you know most of the infants born in that institution lived and were adopted.

You have stated publicly that your preferred solution to dealing with the problem of unwanted babies is to allow the mother kill the child before it is born.
Your absolute solution of killing the child before birth will end forever the problem of unwanted babies in Ireland.

Of course there will be fewer babies for adoption and infertile couples will be deprived of the chance to adopt, but hey you can not satisfy everyone.

Your advocacy of the culture of death by killing unborn babies can also be extended to killing elderly people who are also,a burden on society.

Yours etc
TFM
 

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Religion is good, it provides people with morality guidance. It’s the history and culture of the regions, it is the festives and events of the year and for spending time with family

Without religion there would be no moral guidence, hatred, disrespect and greed.

Without religion the other option is atheists which do not respect free choice or value the good of life.
 

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The same place they go now, along with all medical waste. Ovens I believe.
"They"

'used to refer to two or more people or things previously mentioned.'

At least you agree they're the bodies of children that you want put in ovens.

Are you so self-unaware?
 

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Personally I think it's a load of old tosh but if people get comfort from it then fine but don't be shoving it down other peoples throats. I'm looking at you Islam.
 

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So society gets to determine what is moral and what is a value, instead of "religion"?

That experiment has been tried by several societies, and history shows how those experiments fared.

Morality and immorality is expressed by behaviour. By its very nature humanity needs objective standards by which to measure behaviour. Religion generally provides that objective standard.



Society creating the standard will result in failure ultimately.

And no, I don't accept that society automatically knows right from wrong.
if you are an Atheist ,one would accept that religion is a man made idea which in turn means morals and values are also man made .The standards that religion are based on are not other worldly surly?
 

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Religion is deeply embedded into human culture whether you live in Europe or Africa or Asia it is impossible to understand certain cultures without also understanding there religious thinking. I don't think it is something that can simply be removed from humanity at least not so if you want any kind historical perspective into who we are. Someone can approach Chinese history without looking at confucianism or understand contemporary Thailand without looking at Buddhism or some west Africans without Yoruba ? The weight of religious human culture goes right back into the history and is colossal. I think it is rediculous to think it can simply be brushed aside.
You are probably right ,but using Ireland as a petri dish it will be interesting to see what future Irish society does with religion as a whole... The Catholic's will start to sell off land in the next few hundred years , there influence is diminishing at a rapid rate .
 


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