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What is your most left wing opinion and most right wing opinion?

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I think most of us know that the terms "left wing" and "right wing" are less than perfect and most of us simultaneously hold views that are left wing and right wing (at least if you're not a extremist ideologue, I suppose). To illustrate this one need only consider one's own most "left" and "right" wing stance/opinion. Perhaps it will make for interesting reading and serve to illustrate the point I'm making?

My most "left-wing" opinion:
For non-elective health issues, your ability to pay or not pay should not impact the quality of health care you receive.

My most "right-wing" opinion:
Porous borders, demographic decline and an unwillingness to mount a muscular defence of Western values pose a short-to-medium term existential risk to a liberal, secure and prosperous Europe.

Et toi?
 


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Not sure if left wing or right wing applies any more. But of what were regarded as left and right I would say that I am in favour of critical public services being in public ownership (health service, utilities, transport) and I would be in favour of the death penalty for certain crimes.
 

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Left wing:
I would be in favor of any practical measure that reduced the income of people like the Koch brothers and increased the income of the average Walmart worker.

Right wing:
Public servants should be subject to firm, proper management and disciplined accordingly.
The strikes in Roscommon over Flexi Time are a joke and an insult to taxpayers.
 

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What do you mean by 'left' and 'right' as the terms have gone the way of 'liberal', 'feminist', 'antisemitic' and most others that had some definition and could be used for political debate. Now most are just used for name-calling without any connection to their former meanings.
 

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So " left wing" is your decent, generous, caring self, and right wing is your nasty, selfish, sadistic self? Interesting.
 

bokuden

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What do you mean by 'left' and 'right' as the terms have gone the way of 'liberal', 'feminist', 'antisemitic' and most others that had some definition and could be used for political debate. Now most are just used for name-calling without any connection to their former meanings.
That someone can equate decent pay for low wage workers as left wing kind of proves that.
 

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Left wing: free health care for all.
Right wing: sick of young people leaving school and going straight on housing lists.
 

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Left wing opinion : Shoot them all.

Right wing opinion: Shoot them all.
 

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Left wing opinion : Shoot them all.

Right wing opinion: Shoot them all.
Both rather outdated and irrelevant labels in this day and age. However, I will play this rather inane game and say I would be considered, by some, 'right wing' when it comes to crime and 'left wing' when it comes to healthcare although I think neither designations are at all accurate.

Go far enough left or right and you arrive at the same point - despotism.
 

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Both rather outdated and irrelevant labels in this day and age. However, I will play this rather inane game and say I would be considered, by some, 'right wing' when it comes to crime and 'left wing' when it comes to healthcare although I think neither designations are at all accurate.

Go far enough left or right and you arrive at the same point - despotism.
Alan Bleasdale - the english playwright who wrote The boys from the Blackstuff - said that the further left you go the closer you get to fascism.
 

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Left Cruyff, Right Best...
 

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Alan Bleasdale - the english playwright who wrote The boys from the Blackstuff - said that the further left you go the closer you get to fascism.
Like this guy.

Horst Mahler (born 23 January 1936) is a German former lawyer and political activist.[1] He once was an extreme-left militant and a founding member of the Red Army Faction but later became a Maoist before switching to neo-Nazism.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horst_Mahler
 

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Right wing: increasingly worried about Islam in the west. Strangely enough because I wasn't at all in the aftermath of September 11th.

Left wing: I am of the opinion that the government has to get involved in the provision of houses, on the vast scale we used to see in the 1930s-1970s. People are hamstrung by the expense of owning a house. Without government assistance it will not happen for a lot of ordinary people. Affects spending power, family size etc.
 

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I think most of us know that the terms "left wing" and "right wing" are less than perfect and most of us simultaneously hold views that are left wing and right wing (at least if you're not a extremist ideologue, I suppose). To illustrate this one need only consider one's own most "left" and "right" wing stance/opinion. Perhaps it will make for interesting reading and serve to illustrate the point I'm making?

My most "left-wing" opinion:
For non-elective health issues, your ability to pay or not pay should not impact the quality of health care you receive.

My most "right-wing" opinion:
Porous borders, demographic decline and an unwillingness to mount a muscular defence of Western values pose a short-to-medium term existential risk to a liberal, secure and prosperous Europe.

Et toi?
Actually quite a good OP idea. Would agree with your points, but would add:

Leftwing: legalise all drugs and provide on medical card. but provide massive rehab. This would remove lineman and co. revenue.

Rightwing: intern organised criminals (all, incl burglary gangs) and accept that welfare dependency can be generational, so enforce education for the unemployable.

The two are linked.
 

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Both rather outdated and irrelevant labels in this day and age. However, I will play this rather inane game and say I would be considered, by some, 'right wing' when it comes to crime and 'left wing' when it comes to healthcare although I think neither designations are at all accurate.

Go far enough left or right and you arrive at the same point - despotism.
Its a discussion forum post not a third level political science essay ffs. I personally always find the limits of people ideology fascinating.
 

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Its a discussion forum post not a third level political science essay ffs. I personally always find the limits of people ideology fascinating.
Can you post up your rules for what we should and should not say in a debate so? I'd be curious as I don't want to be furthering triggering you with my posts?

:|
 

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Left, middle to soft; economics, education, health.

Right; Personal responsibility should still be a thing, unfortunately and generally it isn't.
 

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Can you post up your rules for what we should and should not say in a debate so? I'd be curious as I don't want to be furthering triggering you with my posts?

:|
Er no. But well done on making this all about you! Have a good day!! ;)
 

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My most right-leaning opinion is the notion of individual responsibility, my most left, collective responsibility.

Mostly, I believe across all political persuasions, and in life generally, people should take more responsibility for their actions.
 

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