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What kind of Europe are we heading for?


Disillusioned democrat

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The kack handed management of the European banking crisis, the most recent development where basically 60%+ of deposits of over €100k are being taken to pay off the banks debts and the emergence of punatively high property tax here in Ireland in line with other European countries seems to be pointing to a Europe where the government(s) of Europe seems to view its citizens money as its own and also confuses that money with the gambling debts of banks regulated by European governments.

It would appear that prudence and independence are not characteristics the collective governments of Europe plan to reward, but will punish by giving themselves access to your savings and pensions to meet their excessive spending.

Consumption and reckless speculation seem to be the traits our European masters seem to be most interested in - only those with nothing will be truly free from the risk of having governments dip into your pocket.
 


Crazy horse 6

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Heading for???

Pension robbing, check.

Bank deposit robbing, check.

Overthrow of elected leaders, check.

Bullying of smaller nations, check.

It's already happening.
 

Disillusioned democrat

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Heading for???

Pension robbing, check.

Bank deposit robbing, check.

Overthrow of elected leaders, check.

Bullying of smaller nations, check.

It's already happening.
I know "it's happening" but what I don't know is what "it" really is and what the end game is shaping up to be.

You could be forgiven for joining the dots and coming to a conclusion that The EU is reverting to a feudal aristocracy.

But surely that can't be correct...right?
 

Crazy horse 6

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Do you think you are right?

Nice 1 and 2

Lisbon 1 and 2

Make the sheep vote until they get the right result for the advancement of the european super state. Democracy is dead and buried in Europe.
 

Disillusioned democrat

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I recall posting a year or so ago remarking on the huge TV screen on the foyer of the EU building in Brussels being a bit 1984-ish alright, during the RTE guys piece it kept on looping through clips of Barosso.

Europe could become a real sh1thole if this slide continues, completely at odds with Irish rebellious streak....we may not be best served by sticking at it just to be good Europeans
 

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The EU commission / ECB are on course to bankrupt everybody in the Eurozone, with the possible exception of Germany.

Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain and Cyprus have already been driven to it.

Slovenia is next.

Belgium's finances are extremely dodgy.

The Netherlands and Finland are at the end of debt accumulations driven by ECB monetary policy.

And France is heamorraging employment, and in serious trouble also.
 

Disillusioned democrat

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The EU commission / ECB are on course to bankrupt everybody in the Eurozone, with the possible exception of Germany.

Greece, Ireland, Portugal, Spain and Cyprus have already been driven to it.

Slovenia is next.

Belgium's finances are extremely dodgy.

The Netherlands and Finland are at the end of debt accumulations driven by ECB monetary policy.

And France is heamorraging employment, and in serious trouble also.
Isn't it gas that Barosso is still the president, having overseen this whole mess?

Our own Labour party do crap in a by-election and we start talking about scalps, EU destroys 5 economies and not a peep.
 

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I recall posting a year or so ago remarking on the huge TV screen on the foyer of the EU building in Brussels being a bit 1984-ish alright, during the RTE guys piece it kept on looping through clips of Barosso.

Europe could become a real sh1thole if this slide continues, completely at odds with Irish rebellious streak....we may not be best served by sticking at it just to be good Europeans
"could become"????

Last year, a man got sent to jail for six flippin years for importing garlic from china,

SIX YEARS!!!!

The media love to poke fun at the goings on in North Korea,

WE ARE FCKN NORTH KOREA!!!
 

Disillusioned democrat

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"could become"????

Last year, a man got sent to jail for six flippin years for importing garlic from china,

SIX YEARS!!!!

The media love to poke fun at the goings on in North Korea,

WE ARE FCKN NORTH KOREA!!!
Reality check....he's out now after less than 12 months. In fairness he defrauded the state of millions.
 

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Isn't it gas that Barosso is still the president, having overseen this whole mess?

Our own Labour party do crap in a by-election and we start talking about scalps, EU destroys 5 economies and not a peep.
Even more absurd considering that he was involved in the mess in Portugal before he became EU Commission President.

And to further add to the irony of it all, Bertie Ahern was on track for that job, until the Nice referendum result humilaited him.

Barrosso is up to his neck in the disaster that is Portugal. The reason Portugal did not get forced into a bailout, was because it would ask questions about how the clown responsible became EU president.

Portugal's Bertie for EU President.
 

Disillusioned democrat

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Even more absurd considering that he was involved in the mess in Portugal before he became EU Commission President.

And to further add to the irony of it all, Bertie Ahern was on track for that job, until the Nice referendum result humilaited him.

Barrosso is up to his neck in the disaster that is Portugal. The reason Portugal did not get forced into a bailout, was because it would ask questions about how the clown responsible became EU president.

Portugal's Bertie for EU President.
Yeah, I've always regretted voting for Barrosso....oh, wait, that's right,....we didn't.
 

Ribeye

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Isn't it gas that Barosso is still the president, having overseen this whole mess?

Our own Labour party do crap in a by-election and we start talking about scalps, EU destroys 5 economies and not a peep.
I'd say Barrosso will meet a grizzly end, his kind always do,

I'd also imagine Gilmore will suffer a similar fate,

Don't believe me?

Try reading a history book or two,
 

Disillusioned democrat

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I'd say Barrosso will meet a grizzly end, his kind always do,

I'd also imagine Gilmore will suffer a similar fate,

Don't believe me?

Try reading a history book or two,
By grizzly do you mean a life of luxury on 6 figure tax payer funded pension plus board memberships, but maybe skipping shaving every day and growing a bit of stubble?

Sadly that's about the worst fate that awaits the pompous ******************************(s).

The old Machivellian days of stilettos in the ribs and poisin in the wine are over, it's easier to by silence with tax payers money.
 

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Reality check....he's out now after less than 12 months. In fairness he defrauded the state of millions.
He's out now because of the outcry from his family and tens of thousands of people like me,

And he wasn't givin six years because he defrauded the state,

He got six years because he exposed the corrupt garlic tariff that the EU put in place in place to enrich industrial farmers in France and Spain,

The only people being defrauded is us, the garlic nibbling citizens,
 

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We're heading for a Europe with the same paranoid schizophrenia from a minority of the population who bleat about Eurocrats and bad people in Brussels as has happened for the last 30 years.
So no change.
 

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By grizzly do you mean a life of luxury on 6 figure tax payer funded pension plus board memberships, but maybe skipping shaving every day and growing a bit of stubble?

Sadly that's about the worst fate that awaits the pompous ******************************(s).

The old Machivellian days of stilettos in the ribs and poisin in the wine are over, it's easier to by silence with tax payers money.
That could have been said at any time in history,

After what he has done, is doing, and will do,

There will be no place on earth that he will be safe,
 

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He's out now because of the outcry from his family and tens of thousands of people like me,

And he wasn't givin six years because he defrauded the state,

He got six years because he exposed the corrupt garlic tariff that the EU put in place in place to enrich industrial farmers in France and Spain,

The only people being defrauded is us, the garlic nibbling citizens,
The fact that the prisons are full, and they let people off on early release might also be a consideration.

They simply don't have enough spaces for all the people that have offended the institutional state.
 

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The kack handed management of the European banking crisis, the most recent development where basically 60%+ of deposits of over €100k are being taken to pay off the banks debts and the emergence of punatively high property tax here in Ireland in line with other European countries seems to be pointing to a Europe where the government(s) of Europe seems to view its citizens money as its own and also confuses that money with the gambling debts of banks regulated by European governments.

It would appear that prudence and independence are not characteristics the collective governments of Europe plan to reward, but will punish by giving themselves access to your savings and pensions to meet their excessive spending.

Consumption and reckless speculation seem to be the traits our European masters seem to be most interested in - only those with nothing will be truly free from the risk of having governments dip into your pocket.

The kind of Europe where the Chancellor/Kaiser/Fuhrer rules us.
 

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