What makes Garret FitzGerald the best Fine Gael leader?

RahenyFG

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What was it that made Garret FitzGerald to be regarded as the best Fine Gael leader. Under FitzGerald's reign, Fine Gael won 70 seats, it's highest ever, in December 1982 and have not reached such dizzy heights since. Since FitzGerald's resignation as leader in 1987, many leaders have come and gone with mixed performances. He was much more popular than his Fianna Fail counterpart Charles Haughey, til the mid 80s that is. I wasn't around at the time so can people express to me why Garret stood out as the best amongst Fine Gael leaders. Did he perform well on media unlike wooden Enda or was it his personality?
 


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1. On the right side of the debate about the liberal agenda and Northern Ireland.
2. Less personally repulsive than Haughey to people who didn't like the smell of corruption.
3. Credible in his being able to work with Labour, unlike almost all of his predecessors, so he was a credible leader of an alternative government.
 

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getting a £200K loan written off by the AIB when he took a punt on GPA shares and got burnt.
 

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You must be joking he was a laughing stock. OUT OUT OUT.
 

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His electoral performances in the early 80s makes him the best FG leader in their history. They won 70 seats with him as leader in the November election in 82. Even in the next election, FG won't come close to that number.
 

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Intelligence and integrity, qualities largely absent in the Dail in more recent years.
 

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getting a £200K loan written off by the AIB when he took a punt on GPA shares and got burnt.
General run-of-the-mill corruption like so many others.

Much, much worse is his active collaboration with the same British Forces that he knew carried out the worst mass murder in the state's history:
Dublin Monaghan Bombing - Bloody Friday - TV3 - Political World Irish Political Forums & International Political Forums

All at massive cost to Irish taxpayers and the fight against drug dealers.

The most vile piece of scum ever to hold office here.
 

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General run-of-the-mill corruption like so many others.

Much, much worse is his active collaboration with the same British Forces that he knew carried out the worst mass murder in the state's history:
Dublin Monaghan Bombing - Bloody Friday - TV3 - Political World Irish Political Forums & International Political Forums

All at massive cost to Irish taxpayers and the fight against drug dealers.

The most vile piece of scum ever to hold office here.
What group murdered FG Senator Billy Fox down here? What group robbed banks down here? What group murdered Guards? What group murdered 2000 Protestant Irishmen north of the border. What group was responsible for the disappeared? Wake up.
 

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What group murdered FG Senator Billy Fox down here? What group robbed banks down here? What group murdered Guards? What group murdered 2000 Protestant Irishmen north of the border. What group was responsible for the disappeared? Wake up.
Did that give the right for the Brits. to support the murder of Irish civilians in a friendly country. But history tells a story that sort of action would not be new to them. :eek::eek::eek:
 

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What group murdered FG Senator Billy Fox down here? What group robbed banks down here? What group murdered Guards? What group murdered 2000 Protestant Irishmen north of the border. What group was responsible for the disappeared? Wake up.
What about ... what about ... what about ... FG member, Séamus Ludlow? Oh, Garret the Groveller collaborated with his killers too, after telling his family blatant lies that he was killed by the Ra for informing! Like I said: vile scum.
 

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His electoral performances in the early 80s makes him the best FG leader in their history. They won 70 seats with him as leader in the November election in 82. Even in the next election, FG won't come close to that number.
You have to remember that when he won the 70 seats it was in similar circumstances to now, a deep recession caused by FF. If FG had put anyone up as leader in 1982 he was going to do well. He did also introduce a socialist tail onto FG that does conflict with your average FG supporter economically.

That said Garret Fitzgerald is very likeable on a personal level.
 

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What group murdered FG Senator Billy Fox down here? What group robbed banks down here? What group murdered Guards? What group murdered 2000 Protestant Irishmen north of the border. What group was responsible for the disappeared? Wake up.
You really need to stop reading the feckin Sindo.

All Republican paramilitary groups combined, including obscure splinter groups and the likes of the OIRA & INLA, killed 2058 people during the Troubles. Of these, 1080 were British forces, 185 of their own, 55 Loyalist paramilitaries, and 728 civilians...and over half of those civilians were Catholics!
 

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You have to remember that when he won the 70 seats it was in similar circumstances to now, a deep recession caused by FF. If FG had put anyone up as leader in 1982 he was going to do well. He did also introduce a socialist tail onto FG that does conflict with your average FG supporter economically.

That said Garret Fitzgerald is very likeable on a personal level.
You know I wonder sometimes if FitzGerald was FG leader now would FG have a chance of winning an overall majority? and also if Kenny was leader in 1982 would FG have win 70 seats?

FitzGerald was likeable on a personal level? Kenny is said to be likeable on a personal level but still can't impress the voters to the extent FitzGerald did.
 


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