What say MEPs about meeting with Ollie Rehn?

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MrFunkyBoogaloo

What say MEPs about meeting with Olli Rehn?

http://www.politics.ie/current-affairs/143700-joe-higgins-storms-out-meeting-olli-rehn-when-told-keep-details-secret.html?highlight=higgins

While reading the above thread a thought struck me. Why not email all Irish MEPs and ask them about the details of the meeting and whether or not those details should be kept secret from the Irish public?

Here is the email I wrote;

Sent: 24 November 2010 15:47
To: MITCHELL Gay; DE ROSSA Proinsias; AYLWARD Liam; McGUINNESS Mairead; CHILDERS Nessa; CROWLEY Brian; KELLY Alan; KELLY Seán; HIGGINS Jim; HARKIN Marian; GALLAGHER Pat the Cope
Subject: Meeting with Ollie Rehn

Dear Sir/Madam,

As an elected representative of the Irish people in the European Parliament I hereby request that the minutes (and by extension the full details) of the secret meeting with Mr Ollie Rehn be made public. As a constituent of the Irish state it is my right to demand full transparency with regard to matters concerning the future of my family and I and the many future generations who will bear the enormous burden of the massive debt mountain being heaped on the Irish taxpayer.

I would like to commend Mr Joe Higgins for walking out of this meeting when it was requested of him that the details therein should remain secret. Why the secrecy? Why have you permitted it? Why are the Irish people not allowed a full and frank discussion and debate on the matter, with every minute detail on the table?

I look forward to a response...
Here are the responses I have so far received. The most insightful, by a long way, is the email from Fine Gael MEP, Gay Mitchell. As such I have saved it for last. It's an eye-opener for sure...

Dear Sir
The meeting was not 'secret'. At the request of the Commissioner we agreed that information which he indicated was market sensitive should not be repeated by us. He asked "that he be allowed to speak for himself". We agreed to this on the basis we would not be bound to avoid matters that were already in the public domain. The meeting would not have taken place otherwise.

According to my notes only one issue could be regarded as market sensitive, and in the interest of avoiding a deeper crisis to the disadvantage of the Irish people I have avoided speaking about it. Everything else I have commented on as have the other participants.

The three Labour MEPs urged that an increase in the Corporate Tax Rate should not be inissited upon, and also that the Social Objectives of Europe as reflected in the 2020 strategy should be a framework for the negotiations. Regrettably the Irish government in its four year plan published today has ignored that strategy.

Mep Joe Higgins is entitled to deprive himself of a valuable insight into the negotiation process currently underway,as he chooses. I feel I am better infomed as a result of the meeting and better able to represent your interests as a consequence.

Proinsias De Rossa MEP
Head of Irish Delegation
Socialists & Democrats Group
European Parliament
Thank you for your E mail re meeting yesterday with Commissioner Ollie Rehn

Mr Rehn requested that the meeting be confidential due to the sensitivity of

some issues as negotiations were still ongoing with the Irish authorities

Regards

Pat the Cope Gallagher MEP
Gay Mitchell MEP
To XXX XXX

Grow up
Well there you are. Details of this meeting were "market sensitive". Whatever that is supposed to mean. Your MEPs are selling you down the river and not telling you the specifics of what Ollie Rehn says. Where is transparency? Where is democracy?

And on a side note, Perhaps FGers can gleam from Gay Mitchell's gem, why they aren't doing as well as they should in the polls. Demand transparency from FG and you're told to "grow up". Sheesh!
 
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armcashel

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LOL i sent some emails to the MEPs after i read your piece, and The first reply i got back was from Nessa Childers, and guess what? she used the exact same template repy that Prionchas De Rossa sent you, here it is.....
CHILDERS Nessa to me
show details 2:18 PM (13 minutes ago)


Dear Sir,

The meeting was not 'secret'. At the request of the Commissioner we agreed that information which he indicated was market sensitive should not be repeated by us. He asked "that he be allowed to speak for himself". We agreed to this on the basis we would not be bound to avoid matters that were already in the public domain. The meeting would not have taken place otherwise.

According to my notes only one issue could be regarded as market sensitive, and in the interest of avoiding a deeper crisis to the disadvantage of the Irish people I have avoided speaking about it. Everything else I have commented on as have the other participants.

The three Labour MEPs urged that an increase in the Corporate Tax Rate should not be insisted upon, and also that the Social Objectives of Europe as reflected in the 2020 strategy should be a framework for the negotiations. Regrettably the Irish government in its four year plan published today has ignored that strategy.

MEP Joe Higgins is entitled to deprive himself of a valuable insight into the negotiation process currently underway,as he chooses. I feel I am better informed as a result of the meeting and better able to represent your interests as a consequence.

Thanks for your email. If there are any other questions, please just let me know.


Sincerely,

Nessa Childers MEP
European Parliament
60, Rue Wiertz
B-1047 Brussels
Belgium

Nessa Childers - Member of the European Parliament for Ireland East » Labour Party
 
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MrFunkyBoogaloo

LOL i sent some emails to the MEPs after i read your piece, and The first reply i got back was from Nessa Childers, and guess what? she used the exact same template repy that Prionchas De Rossa sent you, here it is.....
CHILDERS Nessa to me
show details 2:18 PM (13 minutes ago)


Dear Sir,

The meeting was not 'secret'. At the request of the Commissioner we agreed that information which he indicated was market sensitive should not be repeated by us. He asked "that he be allowed to speak for himself". We agreed to this on the basis we would not be bound to avoid matters that were already in the public domain. The meeting would not have taken place otherwise.

According to my notes only one issue could be regarded as market sensitive, and in the interest of avoiding a deeper crisis to the disadvantage of the Irish people I have avoided speaking about it. Everything else I have commented on as have the other participants.

The three Labour MEPs urged that an increase in the Corporate Tax Rate should not be insisted upon, and also that the Social Objectives of Europe as reflected in the 2020 strategy should be a framework for the negotiations. Regrettably the Irish government in its four year plan published today has ignored that strategy.

MEP Joe Higgins is entitled to deprive himself of a valuable insight into the negotiation process currently underway,as he chooses. I feel I am better informed as a result of the meeting and better able to represent your interests as a consequence.

Thanks for your email. If there are any other questions, please just let me know.


Sincerely,

Nessa Childers MEP
European Parliament
60, Rue Wiertz
B-1047 Brussels
Belgium

Nessa Childers - Member of the European Parliament for Ireland East » Labour Party
Well, well, well. Why am I not surprised?
 

Al.

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All they can do is write letters. They have no other powers, other than to wield the rubber stamp.
 

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Interesting that the Fianna Failure MEP Pat the Cope Gallagher can't even spell Rehn's first name correctly.:rolleyes: It's "Olli", not "Ollie". You'd think his excessive salary and expenses would motivate him to at least learn that much about a key EU Commissioner.

As for Mitchell, the rude arrogant anal aperture,:mad::mad: it's people like him who give gays a bad name!:lol:
 


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