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What type of Pope will be needed if the RC Church is to survive.


bye bye mubarak

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There will be an election in Rome before the end of lent to promote a lesder of the RC Church, in these difficult times, with falling numbers attending mass, securalism on the rise and fundamentalism putting pressures, both catholic and protestant the need for the conclave to elect the right person is crucial.
John Pau 2 was a master stroke at the time, but what sort of pope is needed to bring the RCC through the next decade, without further decimation.
 

Lain2016

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There will be an election in Rome before the end of lent to promote a lesder of the RC Church, in these difficult times, with falling numbers attending mass, securalism on the rise and fundamentalism putting pressures, both catholic and protestant the need for the conclave to elect the right person is crucial.
John Pau 2 was a master stroke at the time, but what sort of pope is needed to bring the RCC through the next decade, without further decimation.
This lad...



Or this lad...

 

Vega1447

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Believers believe that the RCC is eternal and that God guides the College of Cardinals in their choice.

Many sane people are aware that these are ....unlikely .... propositions.

A sensible first step by the next Pope would be the dissolution of the absurd Vatican Statelet.

Then again, turkeys don't vote for Christmas, as it were.
 

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But the essential thing about xtians is they must believe in this lad...

 

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The Catholic Church is growing on a worldwide basis. Therefore a fella from the developing world is needed, and preferably not someone ancient.
 

bye bye mubarak

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The Catholic Church is growing on a worldwide basis. Therefore a fella from the developing world is needed, and preferably not someone ancient.
But if we have an african, will we have a fundamentalist, with hard lines on abortion, priests marrying, women priests etc, not a populist leader, theefore makink the RCC, less relevant.
 

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There will be an election in Rome before the end of lent to promote a lesder of the RC Church, in these difficult times, with falling numbers attending mass, securalism on the rise and fundamentalism putting pressures, both catholic and protestant the need for the conclave to elect the right person is crucial.
John Pau 2 was a master stroke at the time, but what sort of pope is needed to bring the RCC through the next decade, without further decimation.
This however is a view of the Catholic church from an entirely western perspective. The number of catholics worldwide increeced 11% last year, which should suggest that the church is in rude health and growing, logically that will require an African or S. American Pope to serve that growth.
 
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But if we have an african, will we have a fundamentalist, with hard lines on abortion, priests marrying, women priests etc, not a populist leader, theefore makink the RCC, less relevant.
Yes, but relevant to who? They are growing their 'market share' in Africa, it might be time to close 'His Master's Voice' outlets in (morally) bankrupt, sodom and Gahmorrah's like Ireland and change it's buisness strategy to meet the needs of exciting new markets in places like China where the future high spenders will no doubt be.
 

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But if we have an african, will we have a fundamentalist, with hard lines on abortion, priests marrying, women priests etc, not a populist leader, theefore makink the RCC, less relevant.
Can't have it every way though.
 

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Well whoever they choose, if it's another catholic, cue a deluge of critical opinion pieces in "the paper of record". :)
 

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Malachy didn't have much time for daoine gorm.

A man of his time, if he was alive today (and of course he is, really) he would be in favour of gay marriage...

But holding the line on gay divorce..
 

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Islam always has been and always will be the greatest threat to the roman catholic church. The roman church has lost that battle in Europe where secularism reins for at least two more generations and Islam is growing through immigration and demographics. But the real battle zone is the new scramble to recolonize former European colonies throughout Africa and Asia where Islam and various protestation sects are making inroads and Islam is aggressively purging Christianity from their areas of control. South America is also showing signs of rising secularism.

If they select a hardline pope, then the church loses influence in Europe where people have little patience for it's stances on sexuality, homosexuality etc and risk speeding the growth of secularism through South America.

They will probably pick a hardline pope and trade influence in Europe for grabbing as much as the demographic market share as possible throughout Africa and Asia before the inevitable increase in religious warfare.
 

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The roman church has lost that battle in Europe where secularism reins
Do you know why?
 

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survive?????????

1.2b Catholics is hardly "survival" mode. The Catholic church is growing in the developing world while it influence is waning in the western world. I am pleased to see its overbearing influence receding and maybe a more inclusive church will develop.
 

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I'm hoping for an ultra-conservative pope. Many RCs may agree with me, albeit for different reasons, as they need to chase market share in Asia and Africa and conservatism will go down well there. The new pope will have to do that while managing a continuing decline in Europe.
 
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