What's delaying projects with the money targeted for housing infrastructure?

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Ivan Yates on Newstalk yesterday thought he was going to criticise a councillor for her opposition to a big housing project in west Dublin presumably on behalf of NIMBY home owners. But she put up a strong defence on the basis that key pieces of related infrastructure were missing,including transport connections to facilitate anticipated increases in traffic. Was she correct given the council's capital budget https://www.dublincity.ie/councilmeetings/mgConvert2PDF.aspx?ID=13582 ?

Given that the housing crisis and homelessness is concentrated in Dublin, the size of this housing project should give it priority for infrastructure spending. The government has boasted about the massive funding in hundreds of millions available for housing infrastructure,so why are the necesary pieces of infrastructure missing? Are delays like this going to hobble housing projects all over Dublin?
 
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Ivan Yates on Newstalk yesterday thought he was going to criticise a councillor for her opposition to a big housing project in west Dublin presumably on behalf of NIMBY home owners. But she put up a strong defence on the basis that key pieces of related infrastructure were missing,including transport connections to facilitate anticipated increases in traffic.

Given that the housing crisis and homelessness is concentrated in Dublin, the size of this housing project should give it priority for infrastructure spending. The government has boasted about the massive funding in hundreds of millions available for housing infrastructure,so why are the necesary pieces of infrastructure missing? Are delays like this going to hobble housing projects all over Dublin?
The over spend on the Childrens Hospital will hobble many projects for now and years to come.
 

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The over spend on the Childrens Hospital will hobble many projects for now and years to come.
Housing money was already allocated. One word - councils! They can't build social housing and they set the rules for the construction of apartments.
 

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Housing money was already allocated. One word - councils! They can't build social housing and they set the rules for the construction of apartments.
How often has allocated money been diverted or been unused?
 

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How often has allocated money been diverted or been unused?
Regularly but really makes no sense here at all. It would be a complete own-goal if they added housing cutbacks to this hospital mess. It's more likely to eat into projects in the 2040 plan.
 

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Regularly but really makes no sense here at all. It would be a complete own-goal if they added housing cutbacks to this hospital mess. It's more likely to eat into projects in the 2040 plan.
Agreed I wasnt specifically referring to those projects approved but those that will be needed going forward, that is even more important than the hospital.
 

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Agreed I wasnt specifically referring to those projects approved but those that will be needed going forward, that is even more important than the hospital.
Oh for sure. It seems to be in the area of health projects from what I've read. Metro North might also get a hit!
 

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Housing money was already allocated. One word - councils! They can't build social housing and they set the rules for the construction of apartments.
Rules for construction of apartments in Dublin have cut out gold plating at the request of the government which controls the purse strings. "One word-councils", do you think the Dublin council is inept in getting infrastructure done on time with housing completions or is it deliberately delaying to keep NIMBY opposition low until a general election is over in a year or so?
 

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Rules for construction of apartments in Dublin have cut out gold plating at the request of the government which controls the purse strings. "One word-councils", do you think the Dublin council is inept in getting infrastructure done on time with housing completions or is it deliberately delaying to keep NIMBY opposition low until a general election is over in a year or so?
On social housing DCC have admitted as much and I don't think it's a money issue just ability to deliver. NIMBYism is a private housing issue, prevalent sure, but it also seems to depend on what people are trying to pack into such sites. Large-sized expensive but exclusive developments seem to have more chance despite not being remotely what we need.
 

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On social housing DCC have admitted as much and I don't think it's a money issue just ability to deliver. NIMBYism is a private housing issue, prevalent sure, but it also seems to depend on what people are trying to pack into such sites. Large-sized expensive but exclusive developments seem to have more chance despite not being remotely what we need.
What can be done about the Council's ability to deliver pieces of housing infrastructure where government finance is already available? Aren't there planners and project managers in the council or project managers who can be contracted to do the work?

I read that in England small infill housing projects can be done economically but the number of small builders there has halved in the past twenty years or so.

Big housing projects are prioritised and fast tracked through Bord Pleanala and that makes sense in the housing crisis, but it might be worth the cost of a Bord Pleanala expansion to serve the small builders.
 

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So I wonder if you saw this. No comments below it yet, and it's phrased as an attempt to take a few lumps out of Coveney, but it does tell us something about the initial lethargy in the construction industry - it has a problem with organised crime and protection money.

In the last boom, outfits like BATU infiltrated the industry through the fraternity of trades on site and used them to extract money from builders and get their own guys into leadership positions. Organised crime likes opacity and so it tries to create chaotic situations to maintain its position and conceal itself. It's also staffed by failures who despise honest success and begrudge people decent accommodation. Remember they use criminal methods and useful idiots to get their way.

All of this has a retrograde effect on efforts to ramp up production. I wonder if the Gardaí have an unannounced operation against extortion and racketeering in the construction industry. Operation Thor (the co-ordinated effort against burglary) started its preparation a few years prior to announcement. One wonders if the same is true with racketeering in the construction industry.

Fair dues to O Snodaigh for raising it, it goes directly against the interests of his constituents to see their housing slowed down because criminals want to disease its construction. Coveney isn't one to do nothing if he's briefed on something that's handicapping his portfolio. We'll see.
 


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