Whats going on in Ryanair?

gleeful

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https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/ryanair-to-cancel-up-to-50-flights-a-day-for-six-weeks-1.3222671

Ryanair has suddenly announced they are cancelling 50 flights a day for the next 6 weeks, starting today. Thats over 2000 flights, and half a million tickets. Passengers got zero warning. Many thousands are already abroad and their return flights are cancelled. The official reason is to let "staff need to catch up on holiday entitlement".

Er - Does anyone believe that explanation? How can there be a sudden, unanticipated and urgent, holiday entitlement? How can it be cheaper to cancel flights, strand 10,000s of people abroad and be forced under EU law to compensate them, rather than simply hire more staff? Is someone fecked up on the holiday calculations, surely paying staff overtime would be more cost effective than cancelling flights.

Whats really going on?


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It is very strange alright, just as bad for people booked to go on a holiday and cancelled last minute, what about their accommodation/car hire etc.

Small claims court beckons for many.
 

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Its nothing to do with holiday leave. That's bolloxoligy as O'Leary would put it himself.
 

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It is very strange alright, just as bad for people booked to go on a holiday and cancelled last minute, what about their accommodation/car hire etc.

Small claims court beckons for many.
No need for court - EU law is very clear. Ryanair will pay for hotels, meals, travel, everything - for all 500,000 people. It will cost them a fortune.
 

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No need for court - EU law is very clear. Ryanair will pay for hotels, meals, travel, everything - for all 500,000 people. It will cost them a fortune.
Is that not only if they leave you stranded.........if you don't get in the air you'll have a fight on your hands.
 

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Lack of pilots. According to a recent report Ryanair has lost 140 pilots to Norwegian
 

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Is that not only if they leave you stranded.........if you don't get in the air you'll have a fight on your hands.
It seems that if they give you 2 weeks notice then you don't get compensation. Otherwise you do unless:

You have received between 2 weeks and 7 days’ notice but you have been offered an alternative flight departing no more than 2 hours before your original departure time and arriving at your final destination less than 4 hours after your original scheduled time of arrival; or

You have received less than 7 days’ notice but you have been offered an alternative flight departing no more than 1 hour before your original departure time and arriving at your final destination less than 2 hours after your original scheduled time of arrival.
That begs the question - why didn't Ryanair announce this 2 weeks ago and avoid all compensation claims? Somethings' odd about this.

Im flying with them in 10 days. They haven't announced which flights are cancelled or not for that week.
 

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It seems that if they give you 2 weeks notice then you don't get compensation. Otherwise you do unless:



That begs the question - why didn't Ryanair announce this 2 weeks ago and avoid all compensation claims? Somethings' odd about this.

Im flying with them in 10 days. They haven't announced which flights are cancelled or not for that week.
Cancelled my brothers flight this evening, he got text notification on Thursday.
 

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Nice to see the truth come out on this one, it's been building since early August and the upcoming shortages were talk of the company internally. Norwegian may have been on to something with their comments.

In typical Ryanair style they point the blame at everyone but themselves, it's all down to weather, air traffic restrictions, French strikes and the IAA but never Ryanair's own screw up. Reading between the lines and past the spin of their press release it's an obvious admission they've messed up and need to recover their schedules but now we'll have to wait and see how they handle the refunds, complaints and arranging alternative travel for disrupted passengers.
 

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I'm flying Ryanair to Copenhagen on Thursday and just received a Ryanair advertising email tonight about buying Travel Insurance,..
 

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140 pilots over a year doesnt explain sudden cancelling of 2000 flights with no warning.
On its own it doesn't. It's a+b+c+d = less than 80% timeliness. Which has a huge knock on effect given that short turnaround times is such an important part of their profit margin. So you see yourself dropping below 80% from 90%. You can't force people to cancel their booked vacations. You can't get more pilots on short notice.

So you either A: accept the 80% performance with its associated impact on your bottom line, or B: you do something radical to fix it. I'm assuming someone compared the cost of A vs B and came up with this being the solution.

But there's certainly elements of this that their model should have identified (impact of less pilots and booked holiday time) before this point so an adjustment could have been made quick. I'd guess some of their model guys will be for the high jump.
 

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140 pilots over a year doesnt explain sudden cancelling of 2000 flights with no warning.
Why doesn't O'Leary just hire taxi drivers?
 

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On its own it doesn't. It's a+b+c+d = less than 80% timeliness. Which has a huge knock on effect given that short turnaround times is such an important part of their profit margin. So you see yourself dropping below 80% from 90%. You can't force people to cancel their booked vacations. You can't get more pilots on short notice.

So you either A: accept the 80% performance with its associated impact on your bottom line, or B: you do something radical to fix it. I'm assuming someone compared the cost of A vs B and came up with this being the solution.

But there's certainly elements of this that their model should have identified (impact of less pilots and booked holiday time) before this point so an adjustment could have been made quick. I'd guess some of their model guys will be for the high jump.
They've got 'model' guys?

Do they moonlight on designing the web booking pages?
 
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Why doesn't O'Leary just hire taxi drivers?
Effectively happening.Flying isn't the high skill role it used to be, and much less desirable to high skilled people. so the airlines are pushing to train up younger people into the role in a shorter time to bring down costs but also address an industry wide problem of lack of trained pilots.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-06-29/shrinking-pool-of-future-pilots-keeps-major-airlines-on-edge
easyJet's newest pilot Luke Elsworth is just 19 years old | Metro News
 


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