What's the difference between Laois and Offaly anyway?

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The only difference in that the people of Offaly thought they were the centre of the Universe when BIFFO was elected. Unemployment would be eliminated and money would pour into the County.

Now they are the most hated county in Ireland.
 


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It's well known that there are only 2 counties in Ireland

1) Cork
2) Not Cork
 

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I am amazed at how county loyalties, a British creation, have taken such root here. Maybe the old areas such as Breffni which would iclude areas of Leitrim, Cavan, Fermanagh would be more appropriate. Instead we have an abomination of a county like Leitrim extending from Donegal Border to Cavan/Longford border and cut in two by Lough Allen.
Breffni had already been split in two between the O'Rourkes and the O'Reillys which corresponds roughly to the Leitrim-Cavan split. The McGovern territory went with Cavan (the "panhandle"). Most of the 16th and 17th century counties in Ulster, Connacht and west Leinster were created directly from corresponding chieftaincies, so in reality they're older than they look.
 

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I believe most of the original Irish population of Laois were killed or driven out during the 16th century. The counties were then settled by British settlers

Interestingly it was the Catholic queen Mary and her husband Philip of Spain who began the plantation of the counties. The two counties were named in their honour until 1922.

The plantation and dispossession of the native Irish was actually begun by Catholic monarchs
 

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The plantation and dispossession of the native Irish was actually begun by Catholic monarchs

Why should that warrant an "actually"? Wasn't the original invasion of Ireland by Strongbow sanctioned by the Pope? Some people would maintain that our friends in Rome have been interfering in our affairs a lot longer than our neighbours.
 

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People in Ireland identify with their county. It may not be all that important or attractive to outsiders but it is ours and f...k the begrudgers. This especially applies to the people from a certain conurbation who think that a wall should be built south of Newlands cross and west of Chapelizod and all outside abandoned.

Well maybe a pipe for water from the Shannon could be installed and the odd steak or two could be smuggled in. But other than that the attitude is 'there be culchies'.
 

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People in Ireland identify with their county. It may not be all that important or attractive to outsiders but it is ours and f...k the begrudgers. This especially applies to the people from a certain conurbation who think that a wall should be built south of Newlands cross and west of Chapelizod and all outside abandoned.

Well maybe a pipe for water from the Shannon could be installed and the odd steak or two could be smuggled in. But other than that the attitude is 'there be culchies'.
Hmmmm. People do identify with their county, that is right. This thread, though, could be developed. Partially along the lines you mention but, another direction too.
Apart from the historic connections and GAA county teams to what extent are the old county boundaries of use today? We are in an era of change in Ireland, all brought about because of the economic crisis. Old local government boundaries may have to be redrawn. Why do the two named counties have separate local authorities when they have a population and area smaller than counties with one authority? Let's not pick on Laois and Offaly either.
 
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People in Ireland identify with their county. It may not be all that important or attractive to outsiders but it is ours and f...k the begrudgers. This especially applies to the people from a certain conurbation who think that a wall should be built south of Newlands cross and west of Chapelizod and all outside abandoned.

Well maybe a pipe for water from the Shannon could be installed and the odd steak or two could be smuggled in. But other than that the attitude is 'there be culchies'.
Ye can feck off if ye think ye jackeens can have our water and our cows.

They have more unusual surnames in Laois.
 

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Well fill me in O Wise One.

And BTW mods move this to humour by all means. I was just bored really.
Laois voters are far, far less likely to vote for the nobody brothers of disgraced Taoisigh, for a start. Laois people get up earlier in the morning too, if local accounts are to be believed. It may have something to do with a higher proportion of dry stock farmers and lower level of dairying in the Fianna Fáil bog county than in the county of Dunamase.
 

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Two Different set of delusions ?
Laois has more mountains.

From experience of meeting them, I would reckon that Laois people are more inclined to be upfront when talking to you. Offaly people are more coy ?
 

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one was king"s county - the other; qween's county

aside from that they are offally nice people.

The only difference in that the people of Offaly thought they were the centre of the Universe when BIFFO was elected. Unemployment would be eliminated and money would pour into the County.

Now they are the most hated county in Ireland.
I for one love Offaly though one thing I never understood about this great county. When did they get the right to wear the Tricolour by the GAA? I would have thought that honour would go to Baile Atha Cliath.
 

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They're just tired from the hard life of being dry stock farmers. You can tell because of the welts on their hands from the steering wheels of their 4x4s.
Most of the 4x4s outside of suburbia are tractors and do what they are supposed to do.
 

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I can never get my head around this one.
Every county in Ireland has its own distinctive look and feel, its own accent etc. But these 2. I can't help thinking of them as one big county, and a fairly anonymous one at that.
Can anyone help me on this?
Both are awful kips.

But Offaly is much worse than Laois. A real dump.
 

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I am amazed at how county loyalties, a British creation, have taken such root here. Maybe the old areas such as Breffni which would iclude areas of Leitrim, Cavan, Fermanagh would be more appropriate. Instead we have an abomination of a county like Leitrim extending from Donegal Border to Cavan/Longford border and cut in two by Lough Allen.
Laois and Offaly may be exceptions. Offaly conforms very much to the Uí Failghe, whereas Laois to the former Loígis territories of the Uí Mhórdha.

Said to be a cruithne bunch the Loígis.
 


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