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White flight increases from London


scsa1981

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"Following the controversy started by the Bishop of Rochester, who said that some Muslim enclaves were "no-go areas" for Christians, it all seems to suggest a country that is becoming increasingly fragmented; a patchwork of rigidly delineated little pockets of race and religion, knots of unyielding humanity who just can't rub along with each other.
Last year, nearly a quarter of a million decent, law-abiding citizens packed their bags and left the capital for good, seeking what they hope will be a better life elsewhere. They moved to outer boroughs, other city suburbs, rural areas, abroad, the back end of beyond, anywhere but here."

This article details an appalling example of gang rape by five black thugs.It also discusses the phenomenon of White Flight.Yet the lunatic 'let them all in' brigade wants to bring "blessings of diversity" to Ireland.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main ... do1602.xml
 


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martel said:
"Following the controversy started by the Bishop of Rochester, who said that some Muslim enclaves were "no-go areas" for Christians, it all seems to suggest a country that is becoming increasingly fragmented; a patchwork of rigidly delineated little pockets of race and religion, knots of unyielding humanity who just can't rub along with each other.
Last year, nearly a quarter of a million decent, law-abiding citizens packed their bags and left the capital for good, seeking what they hope will be a better life elsewhere. They moved to outer boroughs, other city suburbs, rural areas, abroad, the back end of beyond, anywhere but here."

This article details an appalling example of gang rape by five black thugs.It also discusses the phenomenon of White Flight.Yet the lunatic 'let them all in' brigade wants to bring "blessings of diversity" to Ireland.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main ... do1602.xml
Yeah. So much worse, say, than Jack the Ripper.
 

scsa1981

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I don't recall reading that in the aftermath of the Ripper atacks, 600,000 people leaving London in ten years.The knife crime epidemic is also ethnic dominated. Trevor Phillips, the chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, has pointed out that "white flight is accelerating" as Britain becomes increasingly polarised along ethnic lines.He also said that multiculturalism has failed.You can't attack him for being racist though because hes black.
These scumbags poured drain cleaning fluid on her to destroy evidence before these cowards gangraped her. No chance of condemnation by the bleeding hearts on this site however. The gangrapists were no doubt the victims of racism.How do you debate someone who is mentally sick and is emblematic of the Left's moral bankrupcy? Comparing London's decline into epidemic levels of violence to a lunatic a hundred years ago is patently absurd.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/ ... e-in'.html
Heres a link for the White Flight.
 

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Ssshhh!!! London is "multi-cultural". It isn't segregated at all. It is a model to us all.
 

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We've reached a particular low point when the day has come that Telegraph journalists feel the need to complain about life in London. I mean, Telegraph journalists, complaining! Things must be bad.
 

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I do not believe it is helpful to connect the issue of 'white flight' with a gang rape. Rapes take place no matter what the circumstances and no matter what the colour of the victim or perpetrator. The article seems like a crude attempt to stoke old fears of a lustful 'black' danger to white wimmin.

However, if we are discussing the issue of 'white flight', we need only look at the North Inner city of Dublin to see the same effect taking place here. In our case, we can perhaps refer to it as 'Irish flight'. Sections of the North Inner city now have a majority foreign-born population and some schools have classes composed solely of the children of immigrants. We can only wonder what standard of English (never mind Irish) these children can hope to attain in such an environment or what sense of Irishness they can possibly obtain. IF we are discussing fragmentation of society due to immigration, then we do not need to go to London to find source material...
 

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seabhac siulach said:
then we do not need to go to London to find source material...
No, but if you do go to London you will find areas such as Cricklewood and Kilburn and plenty more where Irish immigrants congregated because they could afford to and because there were many advantages to settling in areas with large numbers of compatriots. It's not exactly an unknown phenomenon and I'd struggle to see why it would be considered unwelcome.
 

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NeilW said:
seabhac siulach said:
then we do not need to go to London to find source material...
No, but if you do go to London you will find areas such as Cricklewood and Kilburn and plenty more where Irish immigrants congregated because they could afford to and because there were many advantages to settling in areas with large numbers of compatriots. It's not exactly an unknown phenomenon and I'd struggle to see why it would be considered unwelcome.
cus ghettoisation is not to be encouraged. thought it was quite simple.
 

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zakalwe said:
NeilW said:
seabhac siulach said:
then we do not need to go to London to find source material...
No, but if you do go to London you will find areas such as Cricklewood and Kilburn and plenty more where Irish immigrants congregated because they could afford to and because there were many advantages to settling in areas with large numbers of compatriots. It's not exactly an unknown phenomenon and I'd struggle to see why it would be considered unwelcome.
cus ghettoisation is not to be encouraged. thought it was quite simple.
Why?

And who is encouraging it anyway? I would have thought that experience has shown us it is a natural phenomenon that occurs without any encouragement.
 

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martel said:
The knife crime epidemic is also ethnic dominated.
Your bog standard Torygraph readers must really lap this stuff up. The 'knife epidemic' is 'ethnic dominated'?!? What the hell does that mean. It's dominated by an 'ethnic', or by 'ethnics'? Jesus, I know concision is preferable, but you don't have to ditch all pretences to clarity. Just come on out and say it, the 'knife crime epidemic' is due to non-whites. And remember you need only state this, you no doubt haven't researched it yet, but you just know they're behind it - why - because they ain't white. But perhaps you'll read this and plug a few key words into Google and maybe find some other dodgy half-arsed dirge from the Torygraph that 'proves' your contention (and it's intended racist implications). But then again, maybe you'll put to one side your own prejudices in the interests of clarity this time, and research the social and economic demographics of violence. Perhaps, just perhaps, violence is more prevalent among poorer, more disadvantaged communities. And perhaps the failure of successive governments to avoid ghettoisation and to actually attempt real integration has produced the predictable conditions now seen. France provided a precedent for bad planning, but cheap labour is after all just cheap labour, no need in thinking long term.

Anyway, back to the subject at hand, your 'knife epidemic' claim.

6 July 2006
Knife crime is the latest media-hyped panic. The UK press have reported an "epidemic" of stabbings. The crime figures show something different: no rise in knife killings in the last decade. In 1995 there were 243 murders with sharp instruments; last year there were 236. Over the last decade the average weekly number of knife murders has been four and a half. In the midst of the current panic, there have been no more than four knife murders a week.

Politicians/media didn't reassure the public with these facts. Instead we had the usual hysteria-fest, with political parties competing to be "toughest" on crime. In fact, overall crime continues to steadily decrease, down 43% since 1995 (according to the authoritative British Crime Survey), and is falling in Europe.

Tony Blair recently held a crime seminar in Downing Street. According to reports from dismayed criminologists who attended (as relayed by the Guardian columnist, Polly Toynbee), Blair "seemed to mix together low-level antisocial behaviour with serious crime, terror and other international crime into a single pot of alarm". (Guardian, 9/6/06) http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,,3295 ... 90,00.html

http://www.mediahell.org/blog.htm
and more...

The following BBC Online headlines cover the official crime figures (published quarterly) between 2004 and 2007:

"Violent crime figures rise by 12%" (22/7/04)
"Gun crime figures show fresh rise" (21/10/04)
"'Violent crime increases by 6%'" (25/1/05)
"Violent crime 'rise' sparks row" (21/4/05)
"Violent offences top million mark" (21/7/05)
"Violent crime shows 6% increase" (20/10/05)
"Violent crime and robbery on rise" (26/1/06)
"Robberies up 6% but crime stable" (27/4/06)
"Phones and MP3s fuel robbery rise" (20/7/06)
"Robbery continues on upward trend" (19/10/06)
"Risk of suffering crime 'rises'" (25/1/07)

Distorted impressions

Among other things, these headlines give the impression that violent crime has been consistently rising (according to the official figures). In fact, the official figures indicate that violent crime has fallen or remained stable since 1995, and has not significantly risen in the last three years. Recent "rises" in recorded violent crime are to a large extent due to the continued effect of changes in recording practices. The quarterly Home Office Statistical Bulletins (which contain the official crime figures – a combination of police records and the British Crime Survey) make this clear. Furthermore, the Association of Chief Police Officers was reported (by BBC's Panorama, 17/4/05) as acknowledging that, allowing for the changes to recording practices in recent years, violence had not risen.

http://www.mediahell.org/pressrelease240407.htm
 

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seabhac siulach said:
I do not believe it is helpful to connect the issue of 'white flight' with a gang rape. Rapes take place no matter what the circumstances and no matter what the colour of the victim or perpetrator. The article seems like a crude attempt to stoke old fears of a lustful 'black' danger to white wimmin.
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Not ethnic but cultural..http://fjordman.blogspot.com/2005/02/mu ... n-and.html
 

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Stíofán said:
Ssshhh!!! London is "multi-cultural". It isn't segregated at all. It is a model to us all.
Why, can you see them reporting White Flight in the Guardian or the Irish times for that matter. Madam would sooner cough blood.
 

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NeilW said:
zakalwe said:
NeilW said:
seabhac siulach said:
then we do not need to go to London to find source material...
No, but if you do go to London you will find areas such as Cricklewood and Kilburn and plenty more where Irish immigrants congregated because they could afford to and because there were many advantages to settling in areas with large numbers of compatriots. It's not exactly an unknown phenomenon and I'd struggle to see why it would be considered unwelcome.
cus ghettoisation is not to be encouraged. thought it was quite simple.
Why?

And who is encouraging it anyway? I would have thought that experience has shown us it is a natural phenomenon that occurs without any encouragement.
so is racism.
 

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There are two separate issues.

The first is crime and it does not matter who commits it or their race they should be caught and punished.

The second is movement in population. I own a house in London and I really do like the variety of cultures. I prefer to live in London more so than I would Dublin. For me the variety is one of the reasons that makes London interesting. Can't say I have ever felt particularly threatened and certainly no more than parts of Dublin. You could as easily have a thread about decent people fleeing out of parts of that city. It would have little to do with race. In London there are many reasons for people moving, children's education, and better schools in the county towns, down sizing and retiring etc.
 

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ForYourInfo said:
While your selfportrait is funny it is not germaine to the issue being discussed. Perhaps you have some thoughts rattling around in what is an unlikely to be a very active brain? Or are you just yet another trendy leftie who shouts racist! muppet! facist! PD! to shut people up who say things you don't like.
 

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ForYourInfo said:
"...It was a very uncomfortable scenario, not least because many of these crimes had an identifiable racial element: the gangs were Asian and the girls were white. The authorities, in the shape of politicians and the police, seemed reluctant to acknowledge this aspect of the crimes; it has been left to the mothers of the victims to speak out.... "
from The Times about crime among Asian youths in the ghettos of Northern England. I don't have any quick solutions, but I think the least we can do is acknowledge that 1) there is an issue with crime among specific ethnic groups. This may be linked to their economic situation - though the above case is clearly cutural. and 2) that ghettoisation whether natural or not is not something to be encouraged or turn a blind eye to. We've seen problems (aswell as a good cultural vibrancy) in our closest neighbour as their immigrant communities have continued to settle and evolve. Let's try and nip any problems we have in the bud. And we do that by at least acknowledging it.

Consider too the case of a circumsition some years ago .

...a Nigerian idiot named Osagie Igbinidion was found not guilty of the reckless endangerment of life, after a little boy he circumcised, 29-day-old Callis Osajhae, bled to death. The trial judge, Kevin Haugh, told the jury not to bring their "white, western values" to bear upon their deliberations. Describing the case as a clash between two cultures, he added: "This is a relatively recent matter that Ireland will have to deal with now that we have a significant migrant population. You are not asked whether this form of procedure is acceptable in Ireland. If you start thinking on those lines, you are doing Mr Igbinidion a great injustice."
Kevin Myers wrote:
" . . . had the dead child been female, I believe that no jury would have been told not to bring their white, western values to bear on the case -- or if they had been, we may equally be sure that the judge would not be dangling from the nearest lamp-post . . ."
And though a windbag, it's hard to dispute his logic. We have to grasp this nettle. We have to at least acknowledge it.
 

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Clanrickard said:
ForYourInfo said:
While your selfportrait is funny it is not germaine to the issue being discussed. Perhaps you have some thoughts rattling around in what is an unlikely to be a very active brain? Or are you just yet another trendy leftie who shouts racist! muppet! facist! PD! to shut people up who say things you don't like.
As you well know the 'muppet' comment and supporting evidence was directed at you.

I read that rubbish you posted, by someone who seems to be affiliated to the openly racist and islamophobic website LGF (Little Green Footballs), and I was completed bored by it.

The post headline reads: 'Muslim Rape Epidemic in Sweden and Norway'

(scaremongers love the word 'Epidemic') and yet no where does the writer provide evidence to support the claim. In fact, he writes towards the end of the excessively long piece jam-packed full of spurious accusation and prevarication:

"All in all, we must say that there is strong circumstantial evidence indicating that the rise in rape charges in the city of Malmö could very well be real"

It's no great surprise though, from what I've seen of your posts, you have proved yourself as indicated above.
 

scsa1981

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Just come on out and say it, the 'knife crime epidemic' is due to non-whites.
The knife crime epidemic is due to non-whites

You can get all excited abour 'racism' or whatever but the stark reality is that indigenous British are fleeing areas dominated by foreigners.One of the reasons is crime.Look up the white exodus from major British cities.Its not to be debated.Statistics dont lie.
 

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