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Why Doesn't Sinn Féin Oust Adams?


dublincitizen

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I don't know if this has been asked here before so sorry if it has, but why hasn't any attempt been made to oust Gerry Adams?

Surely he's been holding back the party in the South? Sinn Féin had a huge opportunity to increase it's vote at the last election and failed to produce the goods. Why? Because Gerry Adams hasn't a clue whats going on in the South and is going on with the same auld mantra that effects no one, i.e. human rights, equality etc etc. These are non-issues in modern Ireland.

Its been said by a number of Sinn Féin councillors, some of whom have since left the party - Sinn Féin can't grow in the South as long as it has Gerry Adams as President and focuses too much on the North.

Surely Gerry Adams himself recognises that he's holding the party back? Not just from growing in the South, but he's also compromising the party's position in campaigning for Irish Unity. Because at the end of the day, what Unionist(no matter how moderate) will listen to Gerry Adams given the stigma he carries? Surely Sinn Féin would be better able to pursuade moderate Unionists of the benefits of a United Ireland with someone who has no connection to the troubles?

Would Sinn Féin not at least let Mary Lou McDonald be the Sinn Féin voice for the Southern elections?
 
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Catalpa

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I don't if this has been asked here before so sorry if it has, but why hasn't any attempt been made to oust Gerry Adams?

Surely he's been holding back the party in the South? Sinn Féin had a huge opportunity to increase it's vote at the last election and failed to produce the goods. Why? Because Gerry Adams hasn't a clue whats going on in the South and is going on with the same auld mantra that effects no one, i.e. human rights, equality etc etc. These are non-issues in modern Ireland.

Its been said by a number of Sinn Féin councillors, some of whom have since left the party - Sinn Féin can't grow in the South as long as it has Gerry Adams as President and focuses too much on the North.

Surely Gerry Adams himself recognises that he's holding the party back? Not just from growing in the South, but he's also compromising the party's position in campaigning for Irish Unity. Because at the end of the day, what Unionist(no matter how moderate) will listen to Gerry Adams given the stigma he carries? Surely Sinn Féin would be better able to pursuade moderate Unionists of the benefits of a United Ireland with someone who has no connection to the troubles?

Would Sinn Féin not at least let Mary Lou McDonald be the Sinn Féin voice for the Southern elections?
Adams is not the reason SF bombed south of the Border.
 

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He was shown up at the last election to be a complete ignoramus when it came to economics. Spouting out old populist left wing nonsense.
There will alway be the fools or as Stalin used call them "useful idiots" who will vote Sinn Fein but thats that.

Labour ( or more correctly the old Sinn Fein The Workers Party wing) have grabbed the left votw with their version of populist old rubbish
 

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" Adams is not the reason SF bombed south of the Border"

Who was it ordered the bombing on Bloody Friday ?
 

dublincitizen

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Lads my comments had nothing to do with bombings. The issue with Adams in relation to the South is that he hasn't a clue what the issues are. In relation to the North its that he can't and shouldn't be the one attempting to convince Unionists to support a United Ireland. So why keep him?
 

midlander12

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Who'd replace him? Surely the Deputy First Minister/Chief of Staff? That should really solve the problem of 'bombing south of the border'!
 

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One of my main memories from the 2007 election is McDowell destroying Gerry Adams. That definitly cost SF a lot of votes even if the PDs didn't gain anything from it.
 

dublincitizen

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How do you know there haven't been attempts ?

Who knows ... there were certainly theories about Loughgall Ambush being very convenient for Gerry .......
I don't and there could've been for all we know, but we haven't seen any senior figures publicly declare no confidence in Adams, and I don't understand why because he's doing nothing for the party atm and is just holding it back(in the South anyway).
 

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Ruane would be a person who knows what's going on both North and South, except everyone hates her apparently.
 

turdsl

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One of my main memories from the 2007 election is McDowell destroying Gerry Adams. That definitly cost SF a lot of votes even if the PDs didn't gain anything from it.
Well in the long run it did show which of them was the most respected leader North and South
McDowell had only the South to look after and just see the idiot he made of himself and his party, Adams has elected members from Urban Councils to MPs. MEP, TDs. senate,ready to become the Largest party in the North, We most also remember that McDowell bought the dearest farm in Ireland ever with Taxpayers money, All the can be said about that is, lucky farmer, he met a proper idiot. Is it any wonder that the country is destroyed when we have people telling us what great leaders we had in the likes of Bertie and McDowell, I can well believe that Adams can have a good laugh when he sees that he himself is still going strong
when both Bertie and McDowell were both found to be unfit for office.
 
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RepublicanSocialist1798

He was shown up at the last election to be a complete ignoramus when it came to economics. Spouting out old populist left wing nonsense.
There will alway be the fools or as Stalin used call them "useful idiots" who will vote Sinn Fein but thats that.

Labour ( or more correctly the old Sinn Fein The Workers Party wing) have grabbed the left votw with their version of populist old rubbish
To be honest I agree with you. I remember watching my debate and that shyster McDowell wiped the floor with him. He could have said that the whole property boom was false and not real economic growth or the fact that it was really only benefitting a small group of developers and bankers but he kept yaking on about "rights".

I've respect and admiration for him but jesus SF should really have someone from the south on those election debates.
 
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RepublicanSocialist1798

Ruane would be a person who knows what's going on both North and South, except everyone hates her apparently.
It's only rich unionists and the Belfast Telegraph who hate her because she has rightly ended the practice of the state subsidising private grammar schools in the north.
 

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How do you know there haven't been attempts ?

Who knows ... there were certainly theories about Loughgall Ambush being very convenient for Gerry .......
Unsubstantiated but tantalising nonetheless, when your at a loss as to why something has happend. It's best to look toward those that benefit the most, and Ger certainly benefitted from loughgall.

Ofcourse, i believe Ger is 'THE' top british agent in the north, but thats another days work altogether
 
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RepublicanSocialist1798

She still hasn't commented on the discrimination case on the SF website .....


Still, it was only Protestants .....
Hey rich catholics who paid for their kids to go to those ******************************g schools had a lot to lose.

Tax the rich is my answer.
 

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I can understan o'caolan wanting FF out of office, but they are really calling for FG led government.
it makes a nonsense of what they say they stand for.
even if you agree with them on some issues this would put you off.
But wait if labour get into government they will want to bring SF in with them just like the labour party brought in that other crowd democratic left.
SF should refuse and stay in opposition and oppose everything gilmore says and does and maybe just maybe we would then have a good opposition. SF would then be the left in ireland and could oust labour the next time out,
 
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