Why is Anglo-American a term of abuse?

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So we had jeff sessions going on about sheriffs and how they derived from America's anglo culture ... I'm not a big fan of Sessions but what he says is undeniable:

Jeff Sessions 'Anglo-American heritage' remark sparks race row - BBC News

US Attorney General Jeff Sessions has been accused of racism after praising "the Anglo-American heritage" of US policing.


However, cue a backlash from groups that would like to be described as African-American, getting it wrong. Reminds me of feminists who thought that "history" came from "his story", when the greek word istoria always meant an enquiry into the past.

Could some american clarify to the rest of us please? This means that the next time I read a comment by Ms King or the NAACP, I'll think they are more worried about appearance than what goes on beneath. No refugees or colonists from the anglo world in the 1600s = no USA.


Bernice King - the daughter of civil rights icon Martin Luther King Jr - quoted a letter her mother had written in 1986 opposing Mr Sessions' failed appointment to become a federal judge.

The NAACP, one of the nation's largest civil rights groups, said: "His decision to link the term Sheriff to some part 'of the Anglo-American heritage of law enforcement,' is an unfortunate yet consistent aspect of the language coming out of the Department of Justice under his tenure and in the opinion of the NAACP, qualifies as the latest example of dog whistle politics."

Actress Alyssa Milano called for Mr Sessions to be "fired immediately". [who she?]

Rapper Talib Kweli tweeted that the attorney general "took his klan hood all the way off" in a reference to the Ku Klux Klan.
[who he?]
 


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He praised it. At a time when this policing culture is executing members of the largest ethnic minority in the street it was a poorly timed remark and fits into the Trumpet dogwhistle racism problem.
 

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It had a pretty good second half in 2017 - share price up, profits up, so what's not to like?

Anglo American
 

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And it wasn't even in his script. He added it.

Basically he could be seen to exclude African Americans, Latin Americans etc. Anglo American also refers back to when the laws of America were drafted, slavery etc.

Its a nothing burger that the snowflakes have latched on to.
 

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He praised it. At a time when this policing culture is executing members of the largest ethnic minority in the street it was a poorly timed remark and fits into the Trumpet dogwhistle racism problem.
It's a gun crazy country, whoever shoots first gets to live, dem's the rules.
 

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And it wasn't even in his script. He added it.

Basically he could be seen to exclude African Americans, Latin Americans etc. Anglo American also refers back to when the laws of America were drafted, slavery etc.

Its a nothing burger that the snowflakes have latched on to.
Not really. The good ol boy model of American policing is problematic. After the year we saw, the AG praising it is a statement. And that statement is not good.
 

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Cops had fiddled the numbers, but 19 unarmed "blacks" killed in 2017 in a population of 300m is awful but not a big surprise.

Nothing to do with "anglo" anything. Most dead blacks are killed by other blacks, which is why some cops are trigger happy.


Police fatally shot nearly 1,000 people, and 46 officers were killed, nationwide in 2017 - Chicago Tribune


For a third consecutive year, The Post documented more than twice the number of deadly shootings by police that were recorded on average annually by the FBI.


In response to the shooting data compiled by The Post and others, the FBI in 2015 promised to start better information gathering about all police encounters that lead to deaths. This month, the agency said it will launch the new nationwide data collection system.
 

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It isn't.

Blacks talk about their Black heritage as do Hispanics and Asians, their racial identity, their background is important to them.

There is no problem with Whites talking about institutions that have an Anglo-American heritage.

No apologies. No climb down. A simple shrug of the shoulders and a "if you don't like it too bad" attitude from Whites will suffice.

This generation of new(ish) European and European-American voters are not going to wilt every time some rapper or some community organiser in Chicago or Brixton shouts racism because Whites are comfortable with their identity.

Generation Z at at least some of us millennials (b. early 80's to about mid nineties) have watched a generation give our homelands away in the name of multiculturalism,cheap labour and oil pipelines (you should not have underestimated Russia in Syria. There were just going to roll over and let you have your way?).

We will not pathetically get on our knees to apologise every time someone shouts racism and attempt to appease liberals by listing 100 reasons why we are not racist and begging forgiveness.
Rapper thinks we're racist for talking about Anglo-American heritage? Don't care.

We will not tolerate levels of immigration from Asia that the Asians would never tolerate in their own homelands and then be told that we have to resign for referring to our own heritage in our lands.
 

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So we had jeff sessions going on about sheriffs and how they derived from America's anglo culture ... I'm not a big fan of Sessions but what he says is undeniable:

Jeff Sessions 'Anglo-American heritage' remark sparks race row - BBC News

US Attorney General Jeff Sessions has been accused of racism after praising "the Anglo-American heritage" of US policing.


However, cue a backlash from groups that would like to be described as African-American, getting it wrong. Reminds me of feminists who thought that "history" came from "his story", when the greek word istoria always meant an enquiry into the past.

Could some american clarify to the rest of us please? This means that the next time I read a comment by Ms King or the NAACP, I'll think they are more worried about appearance than what goes on beneath. No refugees or colonists from the anglo world in the 1600s = no USA.


Bernice King - the daughter of civil rights icon Martin Luther King Jr - quoted a letter her mother had written in 1986 opposing Mr Sessions' failed appointment to become a federal judge.

The NAACP, one of the nation's largest civil rights groups, said: "His decision to link the term Sheriff to some part 'of the Anglo-American heritage of law enforcement,' is an unfortunate yet consistent aspect of the language coming out of the Department of Justice under his tenure and in the opinion of the NAACP, qualifies as the latest example of dog whistle politics."

Actress Alyssa Milano called for Mr Sessions to be "fired immediately". [who she?]

Rapper Talib Kweli tweeted that the attorney general "took his klan hood all the way off" in a reference to the Ku Klux Klan.
[who he?]
Simples, cos Jeff Sessions said it.

In the US, the whole month of February is Black History month.

Black History Month - Black History - HISTORY.com

In a few weeks when Vlad comes over, we will have various leaders extolling the "Irish American Heritage" and throughout the year we get a whole host of themes and events, like Asian Heritage, Latino Heritage and other groups that take pride in their heritage.
 

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Simples, cos Jeff Sessions said it.

In the US, the whole month of February is Black History month.

Black History Month - Black History - HISTORY.com

In a few weeks when Vlad comes over, we will have various leaders extolling the "Irish American Heritage" and throughout the year we get a whole host of themes and events, like Asian Heritage, Latino Heritage and other groups that take pride in their heritage.
Where's yer 12th held this year?...
 

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He praised it. At a time when this policing culture is executing members of the largest ethnic minority in the street it was a poorly timed remark and fits into the Trumpet dogwhistle racism problem.
Young black men are demographic most likely to commit violence crimes. They are being arrested in proportion to the number of crimes they commit.
 

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Great tradition of Irish involvement in Policing on the east coast.

A dangerous thankless job in the States. I wouldn't fancy it as a career.
 

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https://twitter.com/ms_peaceweaver/status/963309406485086208

we got rid of Sheriffs having criminal jurisdiction back in the 13th century; I believe it's actually alluded to in Magna Carta so saying it's part of an Anglo-American tradition is soooo inaccurate it makes me furious
https://twitter.com/ms_peaceweaver/status/963309976461692930

even Scotland's Sheriffs are a very different thing - appointed judges, not elected criminal justice types. They just have the same name. Which is a ************************ basis for saying they're a good thing in the US
 

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Meh.
 

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It will be held between the bridges, commemorating the freeing of the wan.

It will be a celebration of both Orange and Anglo heritage.
 

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Young black men are demographic most likely to commit violence crimes. They are being arrested in proportion to the number of crimes they commit.
Relevance to the discussion the rest of us are having?
 

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I don't immediately see 'Anglo-American' as a term of abuse. Charles de Gaulle came close with his demand that Québec eliminated 'the Anglo-Saxon dominance' — and 'Anglo-Saxon' seemed, for a while, to be French-speak for 'Anglo-American'.

What would make 'Anglo-American' a strange description is the difficulty relating it to either the original colonies (which were certainly by no means all 'English') or the trend of subsequent immigrations. I think the question of where Americans felt their origins lay was asked in the 1980 Census: just 26% felt they were 'English' in their roots.
 


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