Why is Emmanuel Macron so dislikable?

Congalltee

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 10, 2009
Messages
6,124
On paper, he has it all: educated, intelligent, integrity, charisma, and not Le Pen.

His wiki page paints a picture of a decent man and potentially good president.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Macron

The comments on internet news sites are not so kind: Rothchilds' poodle, europhile, teachers pet, opportunist, inexperienced, and he's an open borders pro-Muslim (this is apparently a bad thing).

He followed the classic French insider route, until he bought out his public service contract for €50k. He is described as a civil servant and for two years was a pro-business politician (though what that means in a French context is anyone's guess).

He lost poll support by describing Frances imperialism in Algeria as a crime against humanity. He is sticking with the superstate model of the EU, despite over 60% of French people having an unfavourable view of the EU. He will be a pain in the arse for Brits' Brexit deal.

Obviously, there is no equivalent in the pedestrian pace of Irish politics (indeed Stephen Donnelly went in the opposite direction than Macron from independent, new party to old reliable mothership of two party system). Even Obama had more political experience.

So, other than lack of trust, why does he seem so dislikable to 76.1% of the French electorate and to others outside France?

Btw has he any known views about Ireland?
 


Joined
Oct 8, 2011
Messages
39,552
??? His reputation - certainly in office - is that of a genial and popular man.
 

blinding

Well-known member
Joined
Jul 1, 2008
Messages
17,399
France's Tony Blair.............It may well end the same way....perhaps quicker........
 

Lumpy Talbot

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 30, 2015
Messages
28,386
Twitter
No
Dislikeable enough to end up in the second round of the French presidential election? Jeez we should all be so dislikeable.
 

GDPR

1
Joined
Jul 5, 2008
Messages
217,782
Let's say you don't get a job in Goldman Sachs if you don't have the mentality of a burglar.
 

Congalltee

Well-known member
Joined
Nov 10, 2009
Messages
6,124
Dislikeable enough to end up in the second round of the French presidential election? Jeez we should all be so dislikeable.
Le Pen is even more dislikeable and she too is in round two.
But his opponents included a commie, a crook and a loyal friend of Hollande.
 

Mad as Fish

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 6, 2012
Messages
24,185
On paper, he has it all: educated, intelligent, integrity, charisma, and not Le Pen.

His wiki page paints a picture of a decent man and potentially good president.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmanuel_Macron

The comments on internet news sites are not so kind: Rothchilds' poodle, europhile, teachers pet, opportunist, inexperienced, and he's an open borders pro-Muslim (this is apparently a bad thing).

He followed the classic French insider route, until he bought out his public service contract for €50k. He is described as a civil servant and for two years was a pro-business politician (though what that means in a French context is anyone's guess).

He lost poll support by describing Frances imperialism in Algeria as a crime against humanity. He is sticking with the superstate model of the EU, despite over 60% of French people having an unfavourable view of the EU. He will be a pain in the arse for Brits' Brexit deal.

Obviously, there is no equivalent in the pedestrian pace of Irish politics (indeed Stephen Donnelly went in the opposite direction than Macron from independent, new party to old reliable mothership of two party system). Even Obama had more political experience.

So, other than lack of trust, why does he seem so dislikable to 76.1% of the French electorate and to others outside France?

Btw has he any known views about Ireland?
An insider's insider. A safe pair of hands to help the great EU project come to fruition with the banks wishes and desires coming first and foremost for the EU is an economy rather than a society after all. Given that he is likely to have some sway in any Brexit deal it would be nice to think that the country most effected (Ireland) would have some say in his election but the great democracy of the EU doesn't work like that and doesn't really believe in democracy anyway, except when it suits them.

The only bright spot is that he will have a rather less accommodating party snapping at his heals. Le Pen came a close second when she had been all but written off by the pundits. I'm no fan of the right wing but it if they serve to disrupt any plans he has of shoring up Juncker's empire then they might have some use after all.
 

Lumpy Talbot

Well-known member
Joined
Jun 30, 2015
Messages
28,386
Twitter
No
What do we truly expect of career politicians? Of course he'll be Blair-like as the opponents of Le Pen are bound strategically to present a middle-ground opponent. If he's anything like Blair he'll turn out to be some CIA-fed stooge.

What did you expect? A Joan-of-Arc?
 

GDPR

1
Joined
Jul 5, 2008
Messages
217,782
Doesnt matter. He isnt Le Pen so he will win.
There's something to that. The Socialist Party has abandoned the Working Class, the Conservatives have abandoned all Conservative principles for Liberal Globalism, and Le Pen is a real French patriot, which frightens most French people. Little Macron comes across as a harmless little boy who has married his mother. A comforting figure for the most bewildered of the French. Still, there will be a lot of people having to hold their noses and look away to vote for such pathetic little Goldman Sachs poodle.
 

Mad as Fish

Well-known member
Joined
Dec 6, 2012
Messages
24,185
What do we truly expect of career politicians? Of course he'll be Blair-like as the opponents of Le Pen are bound strategically to present a middle-ground opponent. If he's anything like Blair he'll turn out to be some CIA-fed stooge.

What did you expect? A Joan-of-Arc?
I think it is safe to consider that a done deal.
 


New Threads

Popular Threads

Most Replies

Top