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Why is Ireland so anti-semitic?

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There is little doubt that Israelis see Ireland as one of the most anti-Jewish countries in the western world if not the entire non-arab world
Is it because of our Catholic culture which traditionally blamed Jews for the killing of Christ?
Is it because of our history of conflict and occupation by Britain (which is utterly different to the age old Jewish homeland in Israel)?
Or is it because of the prevalence of fake news generally - which seeks to break up the unity of Western civilisation?
Israel is surrounded by hostile Arab dictatorships most of whom indoctrinate their population into blaming Israel for their own brutality - so its never going to be easy for Israel - but despite that they do make great efforts to be even handed.
From the BDS campaign which seeks to destroy Israeli industry, the campaign to pressurise Sarah McTiernan into withdrawing from the Eurovision or the unprecedented Senate vote to ban Israeli imports into Ireland and many other anti Israel campaigns
We all know how corrupt and anti-democratic the Arab/Muslim world is..
So why are we doing this - to what should be our greatest ally?


Israel gives Irish ambassador severe dressing down for ‘anti-Semitic’ Dáil Bill
 
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rainmaker

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There is little doubt that Israelis see Ireland as one of the most anti-Jewish countries in the western world if not the entire non-arab world
Do you have any evidence for this assertion?

So why are we doing this - to what should be our greatest ally?
Why should Israel be Irelands 'greatest ally'?
 

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Ireland is not anti-Semitic but many people are against the racism and imperialism of Zionism's occupation of the west bank. Jews are not Israel, not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Zionists are zionazis.
 

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Tens of thousands of Irish nurses, doctors, teachers and engineers work in Saudi Arabia, the largest semitic country in the world. The daily effort of these dedicated Irish professionals is hugely valued by the Saudi people.
In what way is Ireland anti-semitic?
 

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It's disgusting that political zealots use the word Anti-semitism, which is racism and bigotry against the Jewish people who are actually great, to mean dislike or criticism of the political ideology that supports a Jewish state, and that state specifically being Israel.

One is political

one is racial
 
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Tens of thousands of Irish nurses, doctors, teachers and engineers work in Saudi Arabia the largest semitic country in the world. Their support is hugely valued by the Saudi people.
In what way is Ireland anti-semitic?
Another in the long line of half wits who needs to know the definition of antisemitism

Antisemitism - Wikipedia
 

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Tens of thousands of Irish nurses, doctors, teachers and engineers work in Saudi Arabia, the largest semitic country in the world. The daily effort of these dedicated Irish professionals is hugely valued by the Saudi people.
In what way is Ireland anti-semitic?
This is daft. You know what anti-Semitism means.
 

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I know what they want it to mean.
Wikipedia does not even define Semitism, but has plenty about being anti it. So run along and define Semitism and then I'll tell you whether I'm for it or against it.
 

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I know what they want it to mean.
Wikipedia does not even define Semitism, but has plenty about being anti it. So run along and define Semitism and then I'll tell you whether I'm for it or against it.
an·ti-Sem·i·tism
[ˌan(t)ēˈseməˌtizəm, ˌanˌtīˈseməˌtizəm]

NOUN
antisemitism (noun)

  1. hostility to or prejudice against Jews.
    synonyms:
    prejudice · partiality · partisanship · favoritism · unfairness · one-sidedness · bigotry · intolerance · racism · racialism · sexism · heterosexism · homophobia · chauvinism · anti-Semitism · discrimination · a jaundiced eye · predisposition · leaning · tendency · inclination · propensity · proclivity · proneness · predilection · parti pris
    antonyms:
    objectivity · fairness · impartiality
 

fat finger

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I repeat, Wikipedia does not define Semitism, we need to know first what it means before we decide are we for it or against it.
Note: The term anti-Semitism is repeatedly used by trolls looking to shut down debate, so to avoid being a troll, always make sure to use terms like Jewish or Judaism instead if that is what you are referring to.
 

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Tens of thousands of Irish nurses, doctors, teachers and engineers work in Saudi Arabia, the largest semitic country in the world. The daily effort of these dedicated Irish professionals is hugely valued by the Saudi people.
In what way is Ireland anti-semitic?
" Semitic " is a language group, not an ethnic or religious grouping. Snide people who use semitic in the way you did aren't half as smart as they think they are,
 
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Ireland is not anti-Semitic but many people are against the racism and imperialism of Zionism's occupation of the west bank. Jews are not Israel, not all Jews are Zionists, and not all Zionists are zionazis.
Problem is that everything the Jewish State does to defend itself is lambasted and grossly distorted by anti-semites
All these SJW's want is for Israel to be overrun by Arabs and destroyed
 

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Problem is that everything the Jewish State does to defend itself is lambasted and grossly distorted by anti-semites
All these SJW's want is for Israel to be overrun by Arabs and destroyed
Come on man, I have spoke out against that country many times, I am not anti-Semitic. I have Jewish relatives and have been to Israel. I am against the Zionist occupation of the west bank for the most part except for parts of Hebron and that jewish settlement that was destroyed by Arabs and maybe the closest suburbs. How can you say that we are anti-semites for having a political opposition to a STATE and ideology? It doesn't mean we are against JEWISH people. Theres many Jews who feel the same way. I love my Jewish family members and friends. I have an opposition to a political project, none of which are involuntarily or racially inherent to Jews.
 

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" Semitic " is a language group, not an ethnic or religious grouping. Snide people who use semitic in the way you did aren't half as smart as they think they are,
We don't need to be smart to use the word 'semitic' correctly. But it sure drives the trolls mad.
 
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Come on man, I have spoke out against that country many times, I am not anti-Semitic. I have Jewish relatives and have been to Israel. I am against the Zionist occupation of the west bank for the most part except for parts of Hebron and that jewish settlement that was destroyed by Arabs and maybe the closest suburbs. How can you say that we are anti-semites for having a political opposition to a STATE and ideology? It doesn't mean we are against JEWISH people. Theres many Jews who feel the same way. I love my Jewish family members and friends. I have an opposition to a political project, none of which are involuntarily or racially inherent to Jews.
Oh you seem to know everything about it
So what is your solution?
 

rem81

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Oh you seem to know everything about it
So what is your solution?
I am saying that it's not anti-Semitic. Opposition to Irish republicanism is also not anti-Irish. Do you understand? Its political not racial and I get offended when you claim that I am against Jewish people. Its offensive to say that to us. Do you understand that accusing of literally hating an entire ethnic group because we are against a political movement is inflammatory and offensive. Even if you disagree with our opposition then you should respectfully realise we are not anti-Semitic just because that.
 

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Come on man, I have spoke out against that country many times, I am not anti-Semitic. I have Jewish relatives and have been to Israel. I am against the Zionist occupation of the west bank for the most part except for parts of Hebron and that jewish settlement that was destroyed by Arabs and maybe the closest suburbs. oesn't mean we are againstHow can you say that we are anti-semites for having a political opposition to a STATE and ideology? It d JEWISH people. Theres many Jews who feel the same way. I love my Jewish family members and friends. I have an opposition to a political project, none of which are involuntarily or racially inherent to Jews.
I imagine being opposed to the existence of any state would be regarded as an extremely hostile attitude by any state. Ideology is variable and a different matter.
 
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I am saying that it's not anti-Semitic. Opposition to Irish republicanism is also not anti-Irish. Do you understand? Its political not racial and I get offended when you claim that I am against Jewish people. Its offensive to say that to us. Do you understand that accusing of literally hating an entire ethnic group because we are against a political movement is inflammatory and offensive. Even if you disagree with our opposition then you should respectfully realise we are not anti-Semitic just because that.
Whatever ...
So what is your solution?
 

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There is little doubt that Israelis see Ireland as one of the most anti-Jewish countries in the western world if not the entire non-arab world
Is it because of our Catholic culture which traditionally blamed Jews for the killing of Christ?
Is it because of our history of conflict and occupation by Britain (which is utterly different to the age old Jewish homeland in Israel)?
Or is it because of the prevalence of fake news generally - which seeks to break up the unity of Western civilisation?
Israel is surrounded by hostile Arab dictatorships most of whom indoctrinate their population into blaming Israel for their own brutality - so its never going to be easy for Israel - but despite that they do make great efforts to be even handed.
From the BDS campaign which seeks to destroy Israeli industry, the campaign to pressurise Sarah McTiernan into withdrawing from the Eurovision or the unprecedented Senate vote to ban Israeli imports into Ireland and many other anti Israel campaigns
We all know how corrupt and anti-democratic the Arab/Muslim world is..
So why are we doing this - to what should be our greatest ally?


Israel gives Irish ambassador severe dressing down for ‘anti-Semitic’ Dáil Bill
The vast majority of Irish people are not antisemitic, you do come across them on these political chat sites particularly on political Irish. Like most things these days the majority of people just don't care.
 
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