Why is Ireland so anti-semitic?


darkhorse4

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Why were people anti German during the Nazi regime? The Israeli govt must accept that like the Nazis with the German diaspora, that its behaviour is not helping the Jewish Diaspora. When the IRA was planting bombs in England during the Troubles, there were anti Irish demonstrations in the 1970s calling for the Irish to be expelled. It is unfair to the Diasporal Jews, many of whom oppose Israel's policies. And BTW the Irish are not antisemitic.

Bibi doesnt care about the Jewish Diaspora except urging them to settle in Israel (which to him probably includes the illegal settlements in the West Bank and East Jerusalem). I recall when he was in France a while ago he made a speech to French Jews basically telling them France was unsafe for them and they should move to Israel. It was not well received and those present sang the national anthem of France instead.
Comparing Israel to Nazi Germany is utterly stupid
You do realise Hilter caused World War 2 in which an estimated 80 million people were killed?
 

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Why were people anti German during the Nazi regime?..........
Even in the very worst possible, most partisan interpretation of what Israel has done to the Palestinians, it does not remotely resemble what the Nazis did to the Jews. The scale and purpose are so incomparably different in ways so glaring that they ought not to need spelling out.

The other thing is when you listen carefully to people like you making this comparison, you realise they chose it not only because Nazism in the postwar world has become the defining metaphor of absolute evil and thus is the ultimate demonisation of Jews and justification for the call to pour retribution upon them, but also because it is the most hurtful thing they could find to fling in the face of the Jews.

It would be a bit like if I started generally comparing the character of homosexuals to the vile attackers of say Charlie Self, snidely suggesting a kind of "cosmic Karma" has come about, but multiply that by six million.
 

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Comparing Israel to Nazi Germany is utterly stupid
You do realise Hilter caused World War 2 in which an estimated 80 million people were killed?
Well then maybe Israels supporters should stop comparing the Palestinians and their supporters to the Nazis. Like when Pence accused Iran of seeking another Holocaust a few weeks ago.

A more exact comparison might be the spread of anti British sentiment among Irish and Irish Americans during the worst days of the Northern Ireland Troubles, and during the War of Independence in 1919-21 and after the 1916 Rising. This was not racism against the British, but bad feeling generated by knowledge of colonial repression. Unfortunately a similar phenomenon may be occuring in the context of the Israeli Palestinian conflict.
 

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Well then maybe Israels supporters should stop comparing the Palestinians and their supporters to the Nazis. Like when Pence accused Iran of seeking another Holocaust a few weeks ago.

A more exact comparison might be the spread of anti British sentiment among Irish and Irish Americans during the worst days of the Northern Ireland Troubles, and during the War of Independence in 1919-21 and after the 1916 Rising. This was not racism against the British, but bad feeling generated by knowledge of colonial repression. Unfortunately a similar phenomenon may be occuring in the context of the Israeli Palestinian conflict.
But Iran have threatened to wipe Israel off the map and are developing nuclear weapons for that purpose.
Honestly, its very hard to debate with someone with such a limited sense of whats logical
 

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But Iran have threatened to wipe Israel off the map and are developing nuclear weapons for that purpose.
Honestly, its very hard to debate with someone with such a limited sense of whats logical
If they wanted to wipe out the Jews then why do they have Jews in the Iranian parliament?
 

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But Iran have threatened to wipe Israel off the map and are developing nuclear weapons for that purpose.
iran has called for wiping the Zionist regime from the pages of time. The regime, as in government, not the country of Israel.

No doubt you've called for a few regime changes yourself over the years, no?

And Iran is not developing nuclear weapons.
 

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The Iranian president said that 14 yrs ago. This is 2019. And he actually used a phrase that is open to interpretation.
The policy has been unchanged for many years
The links are from different dates but the most recent is from Jan 10, 2019
The reason Iran are at war in Syria is to establish a land bridge for a new war front with Israel
 

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You are deluding yourself on this, darkhorse. Iran is thousands of miles from Israel.
 

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iran has called for wiping the Zionist regime from the pages of time. The regime, as in government, not the country of Israel.

No doubt you've called for a few regime changes yourself over the years, no?

And Iran is not developing nuclear weapons.
You think the Israeli people would allow Iran to wipe out its Governemnt? Are you nuts?
You cant wipe out the Israeli Government without wiping out the Israeli people
They are one and the same - elected democratically
 

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Israeli has nukes. Noone has ever used conventional forces against a country with nukes. That is a crucial factor in people not believing Israeli govt nonsense about "existential threats", which are designed to trigger Holocaust survivors into putting pressure on US and western governments to support Israel.
 

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The reason Iran are at war in Syria is to establish a land bridge for a new war front with Israel
That's total nonsense.

Iran is in Syria at the behest of the Syrian government to fight the Saudi-inspired, Western/Israeli-backed Wahhabi terrorists trying to destroy the country.

Iran has held back on literally hundreds of occasions from engaging Israel after Israeli terrorists attacked Iranian servicemen in Syria.

Hardly the actions of a country looking for war.

That'd be Israel.
 

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Some Israelis and Jews make threats of war against Iran also.

Maybe it would be better for both sides to talk peace.
 

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Some Israelis and Jews make threats of war against Iran also.

Maybe it would be better for both sides to talk peace.
Try to consider the difference between an individual person making threats of war against a country and another Government threatening war against that country.
small.... big .... etc
Work on it ..
 

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Noone has ever used conventional forces against a country with nukes. That is a crucial factor in people not believing Israeli govt nonsense about "existential threats"...
“Today you are fighting divine soldiers, who love death for Allah like you love life, and who compete among themselves for Martyrdom like you flee from death.”

 

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“Today you are fighting divine soldiers, who love death for Allah like you love life, and who compete among themselves for Martyrdom like you flee from death.”

Anyone can tell that these videos are very old. The Ayatollah made clear in recent weeks in a speech that he was only talking about US leaders. Of course that is also to be condemned, but the actual killing of Palestinians by Israel is far more deadly than the words of an elderly cleric thousands of miles away.
 
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