Why is Unionist PR so crap?

Lumpy Talbot

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DoG seems to have forgotten Northern Ireland voted 56% to 44% to remain in the EU. And appears to be arguing for Johnson to be able to over-rule that vote.
 


Dame_Enda

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Says the lying gobsh1te who claims to be a dairy farmer .. and who's that stoopid he claimed a hard Brexit would make him better off 😂 😂

as per usual, dopey's post backfires on him "again" :rolleyes:😂

Dairy Council for NI in 'doomsday' no-deal Brexit warning
After H+W comes this. A civilisation in decline. the statelet is on borrowed constitutional time.
 

Newrybhoy

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DoG seems to have forgotten Northern Ireland voted 56% to 44% to remain in the EU. And appears to be arguing for Johnson to be able to over-rule that vote.
You seem to have forgotten that it was a UK wide vote,there was never any mention or thought of individual regions doing their own thing.

There is no vote to be overruled.
 

Lumpy Talbot

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You seem to have forgotten that it was a UK wide vote,there was never any mention or thought of individual regions doing their own thing.

There is no vote to be overruled.
Isn't that a proposal to be undemocratic?
 

Lumpy Talbot

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Scotland and Northern Ireland were very close to each other in terms of a vote for Remain, which was 55% Remain, 45% for Leave.

So why should Scots and Northern Irish people bow to people in Great Yarmouth when it comes to such votes?
 

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Scotland and Northern Ireland were very close to each other in terms of a vote for Remain, which was 55% Remain, 45% for Leave.

So why should Scots and Northern Irish people bow to people in Great Yarmouth when it comes to such votes?
Because they're in the same country, and it was a country-wide vote.
 

Lumpy Talbot

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Because they're in the same country, and it was a country-wide vote.
So why are there parliament buildings in Edinburgh, Cardiff and Northern Ireland?

What's the point if the people of the nation of Great Yarmouthia can over-rule them?
 

Newrybhoy

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So why are there parliament buildings in Edinburgh, Cardiff and Northern Ireland?

What's the point if the people of the nation of Great Yarmouthia can over-rule them?
They should have made that point before the vote if they wanted to make it an issue.

ThevSots made their choice in their Indy referendum neither Wales nor NI are in a position to seek an Indy ref.
 

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You seem to have forgotten that it was a UK wide vote,there was never any mention or thought of individual regions doing their own thing.

There is no vote to be overruled.
You seem to have forgotten that it was an advisory vote and thus non-binding so it can be interpreted any way that actually brings about Brexit.

In this case, it has been obvious to anyone paying attention that an NI only vote in relation to the backstop is the only solution to Boris's impasse.
 

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You seem to have forgotten that it was a UK wide vote,there was never any mention or thought of individual regions doing their own thing.

There is no vote to be overruled.

You can certainly try to twist facts but afterwards you come back with the same factual result...…...The six counties of NE Ireland voted 56%-44% remaining in the EU.

There can not be any argument or dispute with those facts I have highlighted above.
 

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DoG seems to have forgotten Northern Ireland voted 56% to 44% to remain in the EU. And appears to be arguing for Johnson to be able to over-rule that vote.
Whereas you seem to forget was that it was a referendum for the whole UK to leave the EU.
Many remain voters like myself would never vote for NI to leave the UK.
 

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ThevSots made their choice in their Indy referendum neither Wales nor NI are in a position to seek an Indy ref.
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As part of the Good Friday Agreement, an explicit provision for holding a Northern Ireland border poll was made in UK law. The Northern Ireland Act 1998 states that “if at any time it appears likely to him that a majority of those voting would express a wish that Northern Ireland should cease to be part of the United Kingdom and form part of a united Ireland”, the Secretary of State shall make an Order in Council enabling a border poll.
It is not clear exactly what would satisfy this requirement. The Constitution Unit suggests that a consistent majority in opinion polls, a Catholic majority in a census, a nationalist majority in the Northern Ireland Assembly, or a vote by a majority in the Assembly could all be considered evidence of majority support for a united Ireland.


The criteria has been set for the border poll. If their is a no deal brexit then a vote on the matter will have to be called.
 

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Whereas you seem to forget was that it was a referendum for the whole UK to leave the EU.
Many remain voters like myself would never vote for NI to leave the UK.
And many apparently would. What is important is that polls suggest that more voters now lean in favour than don't, 55% to 42% in the poll below.
 


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