Why is Unionist PR so crap?

Newrybhoy

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As part of the Good Friday Agreement, an explicit provision for holding a Northern Ireland border poll was made in UK law. The Northern Ireland Act 1998 states that “if at any time it appears likely to him that a majority of those voting would express a wish that Northern Ireland should cease to be part of the United Kingdom and form part of a united Ireland”, the Secretary of State shall make an Order in Council enabling a border poll.
It is not clear exactly what would satisfy this requirement. The Constitution Unit suggests that a consistent majority in opinion polls, a Catholic majority in a census, a nationalist majority in the Northern Ireland Assembly, or a vote by a majority in the Assembly could all be considered evidence of majority support for a united Ireland.


The criteria has been set for the border poll. If their is a no deal brexit then a vote on the matter will have to be called.
Not unless republicans/nationalists win a majority in an election it doesn't.

No counting Alliance and Greens.

Come back to us when that happens.

That's republicans
 


McSlaggart

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Not unless republicans/nationalists win a majority in an election it doesn't.

No counting Alliance and Greens.

Come back to us when that happens.

That's republicans
Thanks for defining what you think the criteria should be.


FYI:

As part of the Good Friday Agreement, an explicit provision for holding a Northern Ireland border poll was made in UK law. The Northern Ireland Act 1998 states that “if at any time it appears likely to him that a majority of those voting would express a wish that Northern Ireland should cease to be part of the United Kingdom and form part of a united Ireland”, the Secretary of State shall make an Order in Council enabling a border poll.
 

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Thanks for defining what you think the criteria should be.


FYI:

As part of the Good Friday Agreement, an explicit provision for holding a Northern Ireland border poll was made in UK law. The Northern Ireland Act 1998 states that “if at any time it appears likely to him that a majority of those voting would express a wish that Northern Ireland should cease to be part of the United Kingdom and form part of a united Ireland”, the Secretary of State shall make an Order in Council enabling a border poll.
Win an election.

All on your own and you can have one. That's the only thing that would show a majority MIGHT vote for it.
 

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Question to the PULs: do you think the DUP present a positive, modern image to the world?
 

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We will have a peculiar situation in Northern Ireland at some stage in the near distant future where the Republican and Nationalist community and plenty in the curious middle will want to know by way of referendum or on the basis of an election manifesto what the situation is across the Northern Ireland community.

So we will have the curious sight of the nationalist, fed up middle and even some of the traditional loyalist voters perhaps alarmed by the Brexit capers and what that means for NI agrifood business wanting a vote for various reasons and people like the DUP with a shrinking base dead against any notion of such a vote.

So the nationalist side will want to consult the loyalist community and certain members of the loyalist community will be dead set against such consultation. That does not bode well for extremist unionism.
 

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There is a punchline in there somewhere....
Arlene Foster and another senior Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) politician received large and extra-large turkeys from a poultry giant that benefited from her government’s “cash-for-ash” scandal, it can be revealed.
The renewable heat incentive (RHI) scheme at the centre of the scandal was meant to encourage a switch to green energy, but a flaw meant it effectively paid users to heat their own properties and ended up costing the taxpayer about £500m.
The controversy triggered the collapse of the Northern Ireland Executive in 2017.
The latest allegations concern Foster’s relationship with Moy Park, a chicken and turkey meat producer with ties to her party.
Despite its status as the biggest company in Northern Ireland, its farmers could burn wood pellets and claim handouts under the RHI from 2012.
A “poultry rush” later saw the scheme spiral out of control.
Foster, who championed RHI before becoming first minister, said she would “not” have done things differently in hindsight.
 


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