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Why will this government not apologise?


He3

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They won't will they?

Why not?
 

libertarian-right

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I'll put you out of your misery. No they wont apologise.

Why not? It would be a sign of weakness...
 

toughbutfair

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Stupid thread.

If they apologised they'd be hammered even more for being useless.
 

mcdonald douglas

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they still have 24% percent support in the polls.Amazing that considering they have effectively bankrupted the country with that disastrous bank bailout.
 

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It came up at the TUI conference when Don Ryan said - '

None of you has had the decency to admit your huge mistakes.'

toughbutfair says they won't apologise because they would be hammered even more.

I wonder about that.

libertarian-right says they think it would be seen as a sign of weakness.

But how many signs of weakness do we need?

Decency demands an apology. Can they not see that?
 

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And wat exactly is an appology going to do for all in negatie equity, reduced wages and generally surviving.
It would begin to show some respect.
 

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This government won't apologize because it would involve admitting they were wrong, which would mean that even the people who have always voted for them and who they managed to convince that it wasn't their fault and that it was bear stearns and that they are now doing the right thing to get us out of the mess would realize that they were wrong and would not be able to vote for them. Even those rural people who believe in some warped version of democracy where you inherit your vote, ie you vote for one of the civil war parties because your father and grandfather voted for them, even they would have trouble voting for this government. That is why this government will not apologize, because Fianna Fail's sole raison d'etre is to be in power for as long as possible, and if they apologized they would never again be in power.
 

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They won't apologize because they still don't think that they did anything wrong. They insist it was the fault of Lehman brothers. Or it was "everybodys fault". So everybody is to blame.
 

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Did you see Mary Coughlan on the news.

She looked like she was struggling a bit.

She came close to blaming Lehmans but went for something more generic like Global Economic problems
 

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I think Lenihan admitted to the causes a while back - e.g. see here - however Cowen & Coughlan are still spinning "It's Lehman's wot done it" line. Indeed Cowen was very averse to the Banking Commission.

People in FF need to hammer home to Cowen:

  1. You are Taoiseach and leader of Ireland
  2. You intend to stay the course
  3. FFS admit what went wrong so it can be fixed
Thus far Lenihan is the only one doing fixing... but there's much more work there than just for one person.

cYp
 
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paxtime

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Lenihan is the ringmaster organising this whole show. Cop on for God's sake!
 

Nipper

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Someone needs to take a hammer to Cowen I think you mean

Lenihan is just a smoother class of con man
 

Danman

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It came up at the TUI conference when Don Ryan said - '

None of you has had the decency to admit your huge mistakes.'

toughbutfair says they won't apologise because they would be hammered even more.

I wonder about that.

libertarian-right says they think it would be seen as a sign of weakness.

But how many signs of weakness do we need?

Decency demands an apology. Can they not see that?
I suppose they'll apologise on the same day that Don Ryan apologises for taking the country for a ride when they negotiated benchmarking.
 

ang

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No they won't apologise because they don't believe they are wrong.

Therein lies the danger.
 

He3

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This government won't apologize because it would involve admitting they were wrong, which would mean that even the people who have always voted for them and who they managed to convince that it wasn't their fault and that it was bear stearns and that they are now doing the right thing to get us out of the mess would realize that they were wrong and would not be able to vote for them.

Even those rural people who believe in some warped version of democracy where you inherit your vote, ie you vote for one of the civil war parties because your father and grandfather voted for them, even they would have trouble voting for this government.

That is why this government will not apologize, because Fianna Fail's sole raison d'etre is to be in power for as long as possible, and if they apologized they would never again be in power.
Most convincing answer so far imho, even if spoiled by the townie's swipe at rural people.
 
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