Will Eamon Gilmore make a good taoiseach?

RahenyFG

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Just wondering if you think Gilmore would make a good taoiseach. At the moment he is mr popular and Labour are trendy with everyone if you believe the polls. I question his ability to make a good taoiseach. The Croke Park Agreement is an example of this. He didn't take a side so as not to annoy Labour's key voters. Also populism doesn't translate into a good taoiseach.
 


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Maybe, maybe not. I reckon he will have a very tough time in government. Even tougher than FG. Left-wingers have no stamina and abandon their support the first difficult decision made. Just look at the US where liberals tought they has elected Noam Chomsky to the White House only to be shocked and horrified with the reality of government.
 

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Right now he seems like the best option to me. He's a lefty loon, but if the recent polls were to be replicated on polling day, then he'd be heavily reliant on FG, so he's not going to be able to get through any ridiculous stuff.

He's competently managing his team, staying on message and seems to be able to speak without humiliating the country. So that places him above Kenny and Cowen. The next govt's going to be very centrist and their hands are going to be pretty much tied by the budget requirements of the EU. So competence is all we need.
 

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The Labour party hasn’t decided their policy on that yet, so it's difficult to say.
You mean that they haven't decided whether they want to be junior or senior partner in the next Labour/FF government? :)

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Better than Enda or clowan anyway.
 

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He's doing well at his existing job. He won't have much leeway as Taoiseach but how bad would he have to be before we put Fianna Fail back?
 

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You mean that they haven't decided whether they want to be junior or senior partner in the next Labour/FF government? :)

Regards...jmcc
We could go on like this all day.
Why don't we just list what policies they have decided on and save time all around.

My list.


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I honestly think that unless we, and by we I mean all parties, work together to get through this "emergency" we are royally screwed. No one man can sort out what has taken years of mismanagement (I'm being kind here) to create. No one knows just how deeply inbedded in "official Ireland" are the creations of the past administrations.

LeDroit, although slightly right of Attila the Hun even had me excited there for a while, at the hopes of a new political party arising from the ashes. We certainly need something special.

Eamonn Gilmore is a good man, an intelligent man, an honourable man. Can we afford such at this time though?
 

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We could go on like this all day.
Why don't we just list what policies they have decided on and save time all around.

My list.
And this is my list of their policies:
1. Being in government.

That's it.

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Lazarus

The next government may well have a huge majority. The Greens will be wiped out so the only thing that would make a national government would be bringing Fiannna Fail in. Why would anyone do that?
 

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I honestly think that unless we, and by we I mean all parties, work together to get through this "emergency" we are royally screwed. No one man can sort out what has taken years of mismanagement (I'm being kind here) to create. No one knows just how deeply inbedded in "official Ireland" are the creations of the past administrations.

LeDroit, although slightly right of Attila the Hun even had me excited there for a while, at the hopes of a new political party arising from the ashes. We certainly need something special.

Eamonn Gilmore is a good man, an intelligent man, an honourable man. Can we afford such at this time though?
The fact is that we have a dearth of leadership across the political spectrum at the moment. Whether you are traditionally 'right', 'left' or centrist, nobody can be inspired by their focal point right now. How a nation that produced Parnell, O'Connell and Collins has come to offer Cowen, Kenny and Gilmore is an indictment of the apathy and indifference we have shown as an electorate.

Politics has been reduced in the minds eye of the electorate to an art akin to pick-pocketing; we admire their skill but wouldn't want them targeting us. If we don't find some people to restore the very reputation of the word politician, our democracy will be outsourced to the anaemic and least offensive school teacher in the room.

There are moves afoot to gather a group of restorers together. They will have to be broadly based and representative of all of Ireland but without the wish or need to be populist. The Anti Politician politician's time has arrived. And he may just save politics.
 

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He'll never be Taoisech.

All Fianna Fail have to do is dredge up his associations with marxist revolutionary terrorists back in the day.

He was a member of the Republican Clubs wasn't he?

Those leftist socialist revolutionary guys were up to their ears in criminal activity - drug dealing, smuggling, bank robbery, punishment beatings and murder weren't they?

Did Gilmore ever go away on one of those nice weekends of assault courses, field stripping Armalites blindfolded and Marxist indoctrination?

A few of those guys went to North Korea to get some military training.

Plenty of juicy nuggets in this book:

 
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The fact is that we have a dearth of leadership across the political spectrum at the moment. Whether you are traditionally 'right', 'left' or centrist, nobody can be inspired by their focal point right now. How a nation that produced Parnell, O'Connell and Collins has come to offer Cowen, Kenny and Gilmore is an indictment of the apathy and indifference we have shown as an electorate.

Politics has been reduced in the minds eye of the electorate to an art akin to pick-pocketing; we admire their skill but wouldn't want them targeting us. If we don't find some people to restore the very reputation of the word politician, our democracy will be outsourced to the anaemic and least offensive school teacher in the room.

There are moves afoot to gather a group of restorers together. They will have to be broadly based and representative of all of Ireland but without the wish or need to be populist. The Anti Politician politician's time has arrived. And he may just save politics.

+1000. Exactly what we need LeDroit. Exactly. Thank God you have the gift of putting into words what so many of us "lumpen prolatariat" as SS would put it, are thinking.
 

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+1000. Exactly what we need LeDroit. Exactly. Thank God you have the gift of putting into words what so many of us "lumpen prolatariat" as SS would put it, are thinking.
Laz, while I cannot easily forgive your dalliance with the commies, you will be spared my full wrath when in power. I will put you in charge of the other inmates in the camp.
 

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Can I be one of your minions! Put me in charge of health!!!
 

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Can I be one of your minions! Put me in charge of health!!!
You will be in charge of making houses fire resistant. I can then eh, 'rationalise' the countries firefighters. I think I'm getting the hang of this governing thing. :)
 

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Gilmore could have a scenario much like Garret FitzGerald, popular opposition leader and as soon as he gets to the big position, Taoiseach, crumble under heavy media scrutiny and a crippling economic crisis.

And Gilmore benefits greatly from the low media profile he gets in contrast to Cowen and Kenny. Gilmore is a bluffer who will soon be found out.
 
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Gilmore could have a scenario much like Garret FitzGerald, popular opposition leader and as soon he as it gets to the big position, Taoiseach, crumble under heavy media scrutiny and a crippling economic crisis.

And Gilmore benefits greatly from the low media profile he gets in contrast to Cowen and Kenny. Gilmore is a bluffer who will soon be found out.
+1

His wisdom espoused on radio last week on Metro North just cost him a seat in DN. The moment answers are required his innate populism and left wing brain-scar fuel his tongue to cost votes.
 

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Anybody From Fine Gael or Labour will most certainly raise the standard that Fianna Fail has left for the last few terms in office, There is a good chance this will happen soon. The country deserves better.
 


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