Will Sinn Fein rule out a government with Fianna Fail?

RahenyFG

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Sinn Fein as we know are hugely opposed to the budget cuts and criticise Fianna Fail, Fine Gael and Labour for having a consensus on cuts and see themselves as the real alternative. Having dismissed government with either Fine Gael or Labour, can Sinn Fein come out and out right rule out a government with Fianna Fail. I don't have a link but I remember hearing Gerry Adams say he was be more inclined to govern with Fianna Fail, correct me if im wrong.
 


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You are having a laugh if you think SF would go into government with FF.
 

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I haven't heard them rule it out to the extent Gilmore has ruled Labour out of a government with Fianna Fail and even that sounds like bluff to me.
 

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Pretty unlikely.

Sinn Fein as we know are hugely opposed to the budget cuts and criticise Fianna Fail, Fine Gael and Labour for having a consensus on cuts and see themselves as the real alternative. Having dismissed government with either Fine Gael or Labour, can Sinn Fein come out and out right rule out a government with Fianna Fail. I don't have a link but I remember hearing Gerry Adams say he was be more inclined to govern with Fianna Fail, correct me if im wrong.
The Shinners go into govt with Zanu-FF...Not a hope...Look what happened to the PD's and now the Greens...SF policies are poles apart from Zanu-FF's...The Shinners would not be stupid enough to cut their own throats...I think that SF are too smart for that.
 

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Look at every other party that has gotten into bed with FF. I can't see any party in their right mind doing a deal with them ever as they just end up as scapegoats.

SF have an attitude of talking to everyone so they will not rule a deal out but it is not bloody likely
 

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Are you being genuine in asking this question?

I hope for your sake that you are not and that you know how ridiculous the question is and that you are just trying to muddy the waters to try and convince undecided voters to vote FG rather than SF.

If you genuinely think that this is a question that needs to be answered then I feel sorry for you.

SF weren't the ones who refused to back a motion of no confidence in Cowen during the week.
 

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I think that it's more likely that Zanu-FF and the blueshirts would form a coalition since they are so much alike...Zanu-FF and FG are both right-wing capitalist bosses parties...They both have the same easy old way of doing business...Zanu-FF and FG are two heads on the same body
 

RahenyFG

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Are you being genuine in asking this question?

I hope for your sake that you are not and that you know how ridiculous the question is and that you are just trying to muddy the waters to try and convince undecided voters to vote FG rather than SF.

If you genuinely think that this is a question that needs to be answered then I feel sorry for you.

SF weren't the ones who refused to back a motion of no confidence in Cowen during the week.
Yes I am genuine in asking this. People in Sinn Fein have told me they would rather see Fianna Fail in government than Fine Gael, referring to them as brits and nazis. So that also rules out Sinn Fein with Labour, Fine Gael's traditional bedfellows.

This isn't an attempt to sway undecided voters to Fine Gael, if anything Labour pose the biggest threat to Fine Gael than Sinn Fein and yes I do think this question needs a statement from Gerry Adams to confirm no government with Fianna Fail whatsoever.
 

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I think it would be political suicide for any party to associate themselves with FF after the next election. I certainly don't think for one second SF would comtemplate having anything to do with FF. Sinn Féin are creating an opportuinty for a genuine left alternative, unfortunately Labour are so focussed on power they are missing the opportunity to reshape Irish politics in a way that only comes in a hundred or so years. In my humble opinion, the times we live and the decisions we make now will have an impact on the people similiar to the decisions made during 1921-1922. We all know what the impact was for the people north and south in regards to that decision.
 
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Yes I am genuine in asking this. People in Sinn Fein have told me they would rather see Fianna Fail in government than Fine Gael, referring to them as brits and nazis. So that also rules out Sinn Fein with Labour, Fine Gael's traditional bedfellows.

This isn't an attempt to sway undecided voters to Fine Gael, if anything Labour pose the biggest threat to Fine Gael than Sinn Fein and yes I do think this question needs a statement from Gerry Adams to confirm no government with Fianna Fail whatsoever.
yeah but in reality Fine Gael is very silly when it comes to reacting to its biggest threat.

FG focussed on Republicans as bogey men because otherwise their record against FF made them redundant political failures. While Labour may now be your enemies there is still a daft tendency for FG to focus on SF. Have you seen the clip of Kenny on the Late Late when he talks about SF. That was car crash TV. The idiocy with flanagan etc. Woeful stuff.

So while you say Labour are now FGs biggest opponent I say so what. FG have a poor record in squaring off against its real enemies.
 

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I haven't heard them rule it out to the extent Gilmore has ruled Labour out of a government with Fianna Fail and even that sounds like bluff to me.
Do you remember Gilmore ruling out another referendum on Lisbon?

Do you remember the Labour Party in the 90's ruling out government with Fianna Fail?
 

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yeah but in reality Fine Gael is very silly when it comes to reacting to its biggest threat.

FG focussed on Republicans as bogey men because otherwise their record against FF made them redundant political failures. While Labour may now be your enemies there is still a daft tendency for FG to focus on SF. Have you seen the clip of Kenny on the Late Late when he talks about SF. That was car crash TV. The idiocy with flanagan etc. Woeful stuff.

So while you say Labour are now FGs biggest opponent I say so what. FG have a poor record in squaring off against its real enemies.
If you're talking about FG focusing on republicans as bogey men, I imagine you're referring to their tough approach on republican activity in the 70s when they were in government with Labour. Well any government would have taken those measures for security proposes be it a Fine Gael led or Fianna Fail led, simple as that.

Yes Kenny didn't give a good answer to that question on the Late Late.

Indeed Labour are FG's biggest opponent at the moment, it's a fight to be lead party in the next government.
 

RahenyFG

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Do you remember Gilmore ruling out another referendum on Lisbon?

Do you remember the Labour Party in the 90's ruling out government with Fianna Fail?
That is exactly my point. I don't believe Gilmore when he rules out FF. If a general election produces FG as the largest party with LAB 2nd and FF 3rd. Let's say if LAB do a deal with FG, FG as the bigger party gets taoiseach to the disgust of Gilmore. However, the numbers game mean LAB can do a deal with a weakened FF in order to have more ministries and Gilmore gets his prized position of taoiseach. Clearly being bias and not wanting to make this thread go off thread, hammer FF so badly in the next election so it's next to impossible Gilmore can do a deal with them.
 

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SF passed a motion at their last AF refusing to rule out the possibility, which was pretty poor on their part. I remember O'Broin arguing rightly against it, but as usual the leadership got their way.
 

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Hard to form a coalition with less than 50 seats between them!
 


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