Will the latest attempted terror attack result in an invasion somewhere?

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US cargo plane carried explosives, police say - The Irish Times - Sat, Oct 30, 2010

Just a thought but is there any chance that the latest attempted terror attack, once the decide who is actually responsible and where they are, might be the first indicator of the next target for US forces in the WAR ON TERROR?

Are the US and their allies going to launch counter terrorist strikes or (maybe a bit of a stretch) invade another country that is ripe for regime change?

Are US and Allied forces too stretched as it is to mount another invasion?
 


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Well, the U.S. is already bombing Yemen and has been for the last 11 months or so, so I don't predict much of a change.
Why are they bombing the bloody Yemen. That poor country has been torn apart by civil war for ever. What have the Yeminis done Kilenee?
 
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Well, the U.S. is already bombing Yemen and has been for the last 11 months or so, so I don't predict much of a change.
You have proof of this sweeping statement?
 

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A quick Google search gave me these articles, I could find some more if you're still not convinced:
American drones deployed to target Yemeni terrorist - Telegraph

Return of the drones in Yemen | FP Passport

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI8MtOKYb1Y&feature=player_embedded]YouTube - Inside Story - Yemen's 'war on terror' - 27 Dec 09[/ame]

Waq al-Waq: More Drones in Yemen

This is in Arabic, but you could run it through a Google translator if you don't know Arabic.
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Drones Spur Yemenis' Distrust of Government and US | CommonDreams.org

I also tried to use a variety of sources to combat allegations of bias.
 

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Why are they bombing the bloody Yemen. That poor country has been torn apart by civil war for ever. What have the Yeminis done Kilenee?
I think this was the start of it!

Recovery of the USS Cole
While the bombing was carried out in Yemen, a U.S. Federal judge ruled that the the Sudanese government (in conjunction with al-Qa'ida) was responsible for the bombing, not Yemen. The only person charged in connection with the bombing who hasn't been released or ruled innocent is a Saudi Arabian currently residing in Guantanamo Bay.
And it would be ridiculous for the U.S. to bomb Yemen in response to that. If the U.S. had the right to bomb the country it occurred in, nevermind the fact the nation itself was not responsible, then the Dutch would be fully within their rights to bomb New Zealand in response to the French bombing of the Rainbow Warrior. Clearly, that's not going to happen.
 

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The global armies and international security companies/contractors are
lapping this all up. Their business is guns and violence. There is a slow
erosion of civil liberties and human rights that we must be aware of.
Now when they say jump we ask 'how high?'.
It's a sad state of affairs.
Any 'authourity can claim anything? We're just jumping through hoops
with no end in sight.
 

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While the bombing was carried out in Yemen, a U.S. Federal judge ruled that the the Sudanese government (in conjunction with al-Qa'ida) was responsible for the bombing, not Yemen. The only person charged in connection with the bombing who hasn't been released or ruled innocent is a Saudi Arabian currently residing in Guantanamo Bay.
And it would be ridiculous for the U.S. to bomb Yemen in response to that. If the U.S. had the right to bomb the country it occurred in, nevermind the fact the nation itself was not responsible, then the Dutch would be fully within their rights to bomb New Zealand in response to the French bombing of the Rainbow Warrior. Clearly, that's not going to happen.
But didn't you know that the US has sole preemptive rights in the world -
something they have granted themselves?
But no one else can without prior US approval.
 

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A quick Google search gave me these articles, I could find some more if you're still not convinced:
There are many factors in Yeman that are leading to strife.

The majority of Al Queda in Yeman are Saudi.

There is also the north south divide in the country which is reemerging after a few years of unity.

And of course the Houthi in the north who rebelled recently.

Irans influence on Shia groups is another factor.

The presense of Al Queda in Yeman, or the moving there of its Saudi element, has been largely facilitated by the instability in the country. Yeman is not a failed state but does have the ingredients of one. If Yeman 'failed' though it would result in a redivision of the country. So it would become two states instead of one failed one.

The question then is who has the most influence in either of those nations and US concerns are entirely secondry to the emerging power struggle between Shia and Sunni groups. This whole mess is being played out on the Saudi peninsula lets not forget.
 
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But didn't you know that the US has sole preemptive rights in the world -
something they have granted themselves?
But no one else can without prior US approval.
US concerns are entirely secondry to the emerging strife in places like Yeman and indeed Bahrain:

BBC News - Bahrain opens coup plot trial against Shia activists

Whatever US policy is it is of little concern to Sunni leaders on the Saudi Peninsula whose first priority is the supression of a Shia political upsurge on what is considered holy ground. There is a power struggle going on which some Western observers seem determined to ignore in favour of concentrating on US interests and concerns.

Iraq has proven I think that once the gloves are off and Sunni and Shia groups get to grappling, they both ignore US concerns and relegate the US to a lower level of priority. How many Al Queda plots have eminated from Iraq recently that were aimed at the West? None. Yet the group seems to operate there with a huge degree of resources and freedom. Their backers and indeed the group itself are more concerned with killing Shia than attacking the US or the West.
 

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US cargo plane carried explosives, police say - The Irish Times - Sat, Oct 30, 2010

Just a thought but is there any chance that the latest attempted terror attack, once the decide who is actually responsible and where they are, might be the first indicator of the next target for US forces in the WAR ON TERROR?

Are the US and their allies going to launch counter terrorist strikes or (maybe a bit of a stretch) invade another country that is ripe for regime change?

Are US and Allied forces too stretched as it is to mount another invasion?
After 9/11 the US identified some countries that would be invaded or to have regime change. They were Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, North Korea and Libya. Libya was taken off the list in 2003. Afghanistan and Iraq have already been invaded and regime change has taken place as a result. That there's going to be invasions and/or regime change in Iran, Syria and North Korea is a given. The US war on terror against what it calls the Axis Of Evil has not gone away.
 

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After 9/11 the US identified some countries that would be invaded or to have regime change. They were Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran, Syria, North Korea and Libya. Libya was taken off the list in 2003. Afghanistan and Iraq have already been invaded and regime change has taken place as a result. That there's going to be invasions and/or regime change in Iran, Syria and North Korea is a given. The US war on terror against what it calls the Axis Of Evil has not gone away.
They also lied about Saddam having 'WMDs'.

'Axis of Evil' was a makey uppy name designed to catch the imagination of slack jawed yokels.

I mean anyone who believes a Sunni, Shi'a and and a atheistic totalitarian regime are somehow in cahoots hell bent on destroying the 'free world' is a mental defective


Mazel tov
 

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hat there's going to be invasions and/or regime change in Iran, Syria and North Korea is a given. The US war on terror against what it calls the Axis Of Evil has not gone away.
Oh bloody fantastic! That guarantees global nuclear war!! :mad:
 

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They also lied about Saddam having 'WMDs'.

'Axis of Evil' was a makey uppy name designed to catch the imagination of slack jawed yokels.

I mean anyone who believes a Sunni, Shi'a and and a atheistic totalitarian regime are somehow in cahoots hell bent on destroying the 'free world' is a mental defective


Mazel tov
Did they lie, or did Saddam just move them into Syria? They knew he had them and they didn't just disappear
 

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Across the Middle East and Africa the power of the goverments never extended far outside of the capital city and other population centres. Hinterlands and remote regions were the natural haven for bandits, zealots and revolutionaries.
In the past an obscure group fighting a local insurgency would not have been heard about.
Now global airtravel and communications means that insurgents who have been fighting for centuries against one faction or other who held power can make their fight an international one by using the diaspora who live in the West but remain in communication with the home country.

In the 19th century when an Irish rebel left for America or Australia the link between family, friends and the struggle against British rule became remote. Some sent home money or agitated for sympathy among the diaspora but that was about it.

The activities of the Times Square bomber show that modern communications mean that a zealot who has left his home country can remain in the loop and co-ordinate his activities with his comrades in Pakistan.

The ability of Yemeni Islamic militants to attack America in the past would have been virtually nil but now internet and airlines have global reach.
For a few thousand dollars, they came close to detonating a bomb on a jet airliner over a major population centre in the West potentially killing thousands.

No need for cruise missiles or jet fighters or an amphibious landing by tens of thousands of Muslim jihadist warriors equiped like a U.S. Marine Division.
Instead you need only an ink jet cartridge and a little luck.

Bombing rebel held territory will kill hundreds of militants and scatter them.

But the Islamists are capable of regrouping and rebuilding their networks elsewhere.

It seems that as time goes by they have abandoned the concept of one major attack with a large number of militants working together and have decided to focus on a large number of smaller attacks by inidividuals who can get their orders through chatrooms or forums and source the materials for their bombs locally.
 

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Did they lie, or did Saddam just move them into Syria? They knew he had them and they didn't just disappear
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rX7wtNOkuHo]YouTube - Nelson[/ame]
 

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Oh bloody fantastic! That guarantees global nuclear war!! :mad:
It might if, you know, Iran actually had nuclear weapons. Sure, I believe they're developing them, but they've been "5 years away" from a bomb for the last dozen years or so. Or so the CIA says, and I can't see a motivation for them to lie to soothe the fears of the population instead of inflame them.
And with North Korea, it's led by a madman but I don't think he's suicidal. A lot of the strange actions they've taken that are reported by the Western media are taken out of context to give us a caricature of a fully insane sociopath, instead of the petty tyrant he is. Not that I'm at all supporting North Korea, but if push came to shove, I honestly don't think they would drop a nuke. And they don't have a nuke anyways. The one they tested was the least effective nuke ever, to the point where it might not even be considered a true nuclear weapon.
 

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Control of the Red Sea is obviously a high priority for the Nonce World Order, hence the staged ,and low budget, false flag operations such as this along alleged a few bogus Somali pirate kidnaps. Both Yemen and Somalia are being lined up for "police action".
 

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Control of the Red Sea is obviously a high priority for the Nonce World Order, hence the staged ,and low budget, false flag operations such as this along alleged a few bogus Somali pirate kidnaps. Both Yemen and Somalia are being lined up for "police action".
Bogus Somali pirates? Certainly the reason for piracy is being distorted by the media, but how do you mean bogus? Are you suggesting that the pirates are complete fabrications? Or are you saying the piracy issue is being exaggerated?
 


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