With house price inflation what will happen to the working classes in Dublin's inner city?

The Rahenyite

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As the title says with house price inflation what will happen to the working classes in Dublin's inner city? There's some outrageous asking prices in inner city areas, north and south. This 1 bed in Arbour Hill at 225k 63 Arbour Hill, Stoneybatter, Dublin 7, North Dublin City - House For Sale or this 2 bed apartment in Kilmainham at 250k http://www.daft.ie/dublin/apartments-for-sale/kilmainham/apartment-6-the-orchard-south-circular-road-kilmainham-dublin-1552793/ These are just two examples of properties in the inner city not within the reach of someone earning below the average industrial wage of €35,000 and a partial struggle for a couple. The death of inner city communities through gentrification is already well highlighted by books such as Dublin-The Heart Of The City Capturing Dublin's lost communities - Independent.ie
So for those of inner city working class origin and not on a high wage what will happen to them? Should they just stay at home for the rest of their lives with their parents who bought the home when prices were much more reasonable? Or become a part of the growing commuter sprawl into Fingal and surrounding counties and lose their Dublin identify and roots? I know of people in the Pearse St D2 area who say community spirit is dying with gentrification and people in Phisborough, where I have family origins, complaining about the 'yuppies' moving in. Are we witnessing about a reversal of 200 years ago when the better off classes deserted the likes of Mountjoy Square and Rutland Street Lower for the new suburbs on the coast? Or is gentrification of Dublin's inner city just a fact of modern day life with inflated house prices, poor housing strategies and lack of supply?
 
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They'll be grand. Free house will get handed down and the rest of the sprogs will be housed elsewhere in the city centre at the taxpayers expense.
 

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I'd say large scale immigration is playing a part in the decline of traditional working class communities in Dublin.
 

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this will go the same as London. working people priced out of the market. Social housing types all occupying properties in expensive areas that they do not really deserve. Complete madness.


Long term dole-heads are ruining it for everybody else.
 
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They'll be grand. Free house will get handed down and the rest of the sprogs will be housed elsewhere in the city centre at the taxpayers expense.
What if they have a big family and the house is sold with the money split evenly between the children? Wouldn't be enough to buy a house or an apartment in the inner city, just about a deposit perhaps.
 

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Cities are living systems, not museums. Most of the inner city working class areas were once the preserver of the upper and middle classes, remember. Change happens. What's needed is good, affordable housing on the outskirts, served by good, affordable public transport that doesn't take ages to get anywhere worth going, along with schools and shops.
 

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Cities are living systems, not museums. Most of the inner city working class areas were once the preserver of the upper and middle classes, remember. Change happens. What's needed is good, affordable housing on the outskirts, served by good, affordable public transport that doesn't take ages to get anywhere worth going, along with schools and shops.
And recreational facilities such as parks, gyms and cinemas.
 

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They'll be grand. Free house will get handed down and the rest of the sprogs will be housed elsewhere in the city centre at the taxpayers expense.
We all pay tax ya stupid bast@rd VAT, levy's, etc as well as income tax. Social housing is a state investment as the state remains the owner and is paid off with rent and the various taxes mention, while the state paying private landlords is paying off their mortgages for them and hence FG and FF foot dragging as much as possible on social housing as the alternative.
 

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Cities are living systems, not museums. Most of the inner city working class areas were once the preserver of the upper and middle classes, remember. Change happens. What's needed is good, affordable housing on the outskirts, served by good, affordable public transport that doesn't take ages to get anywhere worth going, along with schools and shops.
But what about decent properties or high rises in the city where people can get to work by foot or bike and don't have to commute, clog the roads with cars and benefit themselves mentally without being stuck in awful traffic?
 

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But what about decent properties or high rises in the city where people can get to work by foot or bike and don't have to commute, clog the roads with cars and benefit themselves mentally without being stuck in awful traffic?
That too, but in reality they are unlikely to be suitable for young families or affordable to people on low incomes. Where are the schools going to be, for instance?
 

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That too, but in reality they are unlikely to be suitable for young families or affordable to people on low incomes. Where are the schools going to be, for instance?
There are schools in the inner city tho some like the Rutland National School on the Rutland St Lower have closed in recent times.
 

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There are schools in the inner city tho some like the Rutland National School on the Rutland St Lower have closed in recent times.
Very few, even given the current level of population. If you start housing lots more families between the canals, you're going to struggle to provide preschool facilities, green spaces, schools, playgrounds, sports facilities, and on, and on, and on.

If you visit European cities of roughly the size of Dublin, you see that most residential high-rise developments are actually in the suburbs.
 

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The notion that the inner core of Dublin need to be preserved as a reservation for the so-called "working class" so that people on welfare can afford to live there is bullshít.

Gentrification is good, not bad, whatever idiot lefties parasites say.
 

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As the title says with house price inflation what will happen to the working classes in Dublin's inner city? There's some outrageous asking prices in inner city areas, north and south. This 1 bed in Arbour Hill at 225k 63 Arbour Hill, Stoneybatter, Dublin 7, North Dublin City - House For Sale or this 2 bed apartment in Kilmainham at 250k Apartment 6 The Orchard South Circular Road, Kilmainham, Dublin 8, South Dublin City - Apartment For Sale These are just two examples of properties in the inner city not within the reach of someone earning below the average industrial wage of €35,000 and a partial struggle for a couple. The death of inner city communities through gentrification is already well highlighted by books such as Dublin-The Heart Of The City Capturing Dublin's lost communities - Independent.ie
So for those of inner city working class origin and not on a high wage what will happen to them? Should they just stay at home for the rest of their lives with their parents who bought the home when prices were much more reasonable? Or become a part of the growing commuter sprawl into Fingal and surrounding counties and lose their Dublin identify and roots? I know of people in the Pearse St D2 area who say community spirit is dying with gentrification and people in Phisborough, where I have family origins, complaining about the 'yuppies' moving in. Are we witnessing about a reversal of 200 years ago when the better off classes deserted the likes of Mountjoy Square and Rutland Street Lower for the new suburbs on the coast? Or is gentrification of Dublin's inner city just a fact of modern day life with inflated house prices, poor housing strategies and lack of supply?
Actually,current prices are north of that. My son lost out in a bidding war on a house near Mountjoy Jail. Two bedroom terrace house. Final price over 300 grand.
 

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Gentrification is good, not bad, whatever idiot lefties parasites say.
In my opinion, this attitude is exactly the one which caused BREXIT in the UK. The working class who got fed up with being unable to afford a home based on their average wage salary. The pesants revolted and people like yourself werent so smug after that. I would hate to see it happen here. The original poster has a valid question what If your someone who grew up in area and cant afford to live there? Are there any solutions to these problems.
 

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What if they have a big family and the house is sold with the money split evenly between the children? Wouldn't be enough to buy a house or an apartment in the inner city, just about a deposit perhaps.
Won't they qualify for social housing?
 

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In my opinion, this attitude is exactly the one which caused BREXIT in the UK. The working class who got fed up with being unable to afford a home based on their average wage salary. The pesants revolted and people like yourself werent so smug after that. I would hate to see it happen here. The original poster has a valid question what If your someone who grew up in area and cant afford to live there? Are there any solutions to these problems.
Indeed. The enormous arrogance of FG is driving this country to serious social upheaval. Not that they give a toss.
 

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As the title says with house price inflation what will happen to the working classes in Dublin's inner city? There's some outrageous asking prices in inner city areas, north and south.
They'll have to do the same as anyone else, work, save and buy a house wherever they can afford it.
 

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Indeed. The enormous arrogance of FG is driving this country to serious social upheaval. Not that they give a toss.
I dont think any of the 3 main government parties including lab, PD and FF before them were much better. Its hard to know what to do really. Possibly a decent assistance scheme if possible.

They'll have to do the same as anyone else, work, save and buy a house wherever they can afford it.
What happens when you do all that and its still not enough due to propert price inflation? Due to people who can afford it getting tax breaks to rent property.
 


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