Work permit scheme changes to address immediate shortages of low-skilled, lower wage employees

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Work permit scheme changes to address labour shortages

The scheme will allow employers in the horticulture, meat processing, and dairy industries to bring in 800 lower paid, low-skilled workers from outside the European Economic Area
Employers can apply for the permits from next Monday.

The conditions of the permits are that employees to be brought in must be given access to suitable accommodation and training, including language training.

They must also be paid a minimum remuneration threshold of €22,000 per year.
Inc or Ex accommodation costs I wonder? Most of these jobs will be outside areas where housing supply is accute?

I suppose one could argue that these jobs could/should be taken up by people here in their late teens, 20s or in general who are out of work claiming that €100 a week? Surely €22K, 4 times as much, is better?
 


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Work permit scheme changes to address labour shortages





Inc or Ex accommodation costs I wonder? Most of these jobs will be outside areas where housing supply is accute?

I suppose one could argue that these jobs could/should be taken up by people here in their 20s or in general who are out of work claiming that €100 a week? Surely €22K, 4 times as much is better?
I am unconvinced about whether this measure is wise or needed, except as a bridging measure.

In the context of Brexit, lots of experienced EU nationals and students job seeking for the Summer months will become available from April 2019. They rightly ought to have priority.
 

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Work permit scheme changes to address labour shortages





Inc or Ex accommodation costs I wonder? Most of these jobs will be outside areas where housing supply is accute?

I suppose one could argue that these jobs could/should be taken up by people here in their late teens, 20s or in general who are out of work claiming that €100 a week? Surely €22K, 4 times as much, is better?
Why are we paying dole to people when these jobs are available, is there nobody on the scratch in the areas where these jobs are?

The Pavee crowd are always saying there's no jobs for travellers well bingo!
 

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Well won’t the horse racing industry be happy? And Coveney’s meaty brother will be overjoyed. or to mention the FFG farmer network.
 

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Why are we paying dole to people when these jobs are available, is there nobody on the scratch in the areas where these jobs are?

The Pavee crowd are always saying there's no jobs for travellers well bingo!
Most travellers lack the basic reading and writing skills to hold a job.
 

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Most travellers lack the basic reading and writing skills to hold a job.
Yes but some of the jobs are in the meat industry and they are very adept with meat cleavers.
 

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Why are we paying dole to people when these jobs are available, is there nobody on the scratch in the areas where these jobs are?

The Pavee crowd are always saying there's no jobs for travellers well bingo!
Why are we paying dole to people when these jobs are available, is there nobody on the scratch in the areas where these jobs are?
Perhaps the skill set doesn't exist among many who are currently unemployed?

The Pavee crowd are always saying there's no jobs for travellers well bingo!
No, they raise points about the difficulty that many travellers have in accessing work because of prevailing attitudes that exist against them, attitudes that perhaps your post illustrates you possess.
 

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Perhaps the skill set doesn't exist among many who are currently unemployed?



No, they raise points about the difficulty that many travellers have in accessing work because of prevailing attitudes that exist against them, attitudes that perhaps your post illustrates you possess.
You must be available for work to claim the dole, they should apply and if rejected then take it up but they should be required to apply for jobs just like all others.
 

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Perhaps the skill set doesn't exist among many who are currently unemployed?



No, they raise points about the difficulty that many travellers have in accessing work because of prevailing attitudes that exist against them, attitudes that perhaps your post illustrates you possess.
What attitudes is that no one is stopping travellers from doing anything but the travellers themselves they need to take responsibility for themselves and stop blaming everyone else.
 

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Work permit scheme changes to address labour shortages





Inc or Ex accommodation costs I wonder? Most of these jobs will be outside areas where housing supply is accute?

I suppose one could argue that these jobs could/should be taken up by people here in their late teens, 20s or in general who are out of work claiming that €100 a week? Surely €22K, 4 times as much, is better?
Another example of the right wing loony FFGer's legalising and engaging in human trafficking for the purposes of labour exploitation, the lowering of Irish workers wages rather than paying a fair wage for a fair days work!:mad: Time for the scandal laden FFG to be removed from government.
 

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Another example of the right wing loony FFGer's legalising and engaging in human trafficking for the purposes of labour exploitation, the lowering of Irish workers wages rather than paying a fair wage for a fair days work!:mad: Time for the scandal laden FFG to be removed from government.
There is just about full employment now, so those in work should be seeking better opportunities and those on the dole required to take up work or cut off.
 

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dont like it
why dont they just set up cotton plantations employ a couple of overseers with whips and call everyone ************************e kinte
 

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And your point is?
 

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why dont they just set up cotton plantations employ a couple of overseers with whips and call everyone ************************e kinte
Or just require some home based dossers to take the jobs.
 

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Perhaps the skill set doesn't exist among many who are currently unemployed?



No, they raise points about the difficulty that many travellers have in accessing work because of prevailing attitudes that exist against them, attitudes that perhaps your post illustrates you possess.
Give employers a pass on employers PRSI for hiring travellers. 10.85% payroll saving should fix a lot of that.
 

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There is just about full employment now, so those in work should be seeking better opportunities and those on the dole required to take up work or cut off.
Where are these jobs and are there unemployed yoof (veg picking is not a middle aged person's gig). ?
 


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