World should resolve Julian Assange issue

Ó Donnchadha

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Should the world powers now resolve the Julian Assange issue ? He has caused way too many issues with between various sovereign powers.

I am sure between the CIA, Mossad and FSB (KGB) that the whole issue of Julian Assange can be resolved in a mutually acceptable manner.

Did he commit espionage ?
 


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According to a looney-lefty website, he's a CIA agent working for the New World Order.
 

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Should the world powers now resolve the Julian Assange issue ? He has caused way too many issues with between various sovereign powers.

I am sure between the CIA, Mossad and FSB (KGB) that the whole issue of Julian Assange can be resolved in a mutually acceptable manner.

Did he commit espionage ?
No, he didn't commit espionage despite what the Americans may attempt to say. Some of what he did do was expose illegality and lift the lid on lies and hypocrasy. I totally support his actions. As for the CIA, Mossad and FSB any action would be pointless (it's not actually the FSB in any case - you've been watching too many 007 movies - it would be the SVR or GRU) Wikileaks is more than just one solitary individual. There would always be someone else and any action would make a martyr and create a hero. He is too high profile to simply "knock off" and to believe there would not be a worldwide reaction.

Wikileaks will continue no matter who is leading it. Assange is careful about where he moves to, sleeps etc - usually he never sleeps in the one place for more than a night. He lives from a suitcase. At the behest of the US Interpol has issued an international arrest warrant. Were Assange to be arrested any extradition would not be a foregone conclusion and even if extradited a successful prosecution certainly wouldn't be a foregone conclusion either.

Keep up the good work, Wikileaks :)
 

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According to a looney-lefty website, he's a CIA agent working for the New World Order.
Well they would say that seeing as how the documents released showed Arab nations wanting to attack Iran and the Chinese willing to let South Korea take over the North. Not exactly hard-left policies.
 

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According to a looney-lefty website, he's a CIA agent working for the New World Order.
People believe that since he hasnt released documents to prove that 9/11 was inside job, he must be a spy or something stupid like that. Then there is people wait for the UFO documents he clearly has.
 

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No, he didn't commit espionage despite what the Americans may attempt to say. Some of what he did do was expose illegality and lift the lid on lies and hypocrasy. I totally support his actions. As for the CIA, Mossad and FSB any action would be pointless (it's not actually the FSB in any case - you've been watching too many 007 movies - it would be the SVR or GRU) Wikileaks is more than just one solitary individual. There would always be someone else and any action would make a martyr and create a hero. He is too high profile to simply "knock off" and to believe there would not be a worldwide reaction.

Wikileaks will continue no matter who is leading it. Assange is careful about where he moves to, sleeps etc - usually he never sleeps in the one place for more than a night. He lives from a suitcase. At the behest of the US Interpol has issued an international arrest warrant. Were Assange to be arrested any extradition would not be a foregone conclusion and even if extradited a successful prosecution certainly wouldn't be a foregone conclusion either.

Keep up the good work, Wikileaks :)


Interpol has placed the Australian-born founder of WikiLeaks on its most-wanted list after Sweden issued an arrest warrant against him as part of a drawn-out rape investigation.

FoxNews.com - Interpol Issues Arrest Warrant for WikiLeaks Founder Julian Assange

I think arrest is the least of his problems. I would not want various security agencies looking to resolve the Assange probllem.
 

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People believe that since he hasnt released documents to prove that 9/11 was inside job, he must be a spy or something stupid like that. Then there is people wait for the UFO documents he clearly has.
We if he did release those I am sure it would be a boost for the economy, imagine the demand from Martians for a semi-d in the midlands :)
 

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Where are the arrest warrants for the editors or owners of the various news
papers involved with printing some of what they received knowing it was
stolen, secret, classified etc...?

Assange and his cohorts do democracy a service.

My only hope in this regard is for his and Wikileaks continuation.
 

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I wonder if the OP is not a troll but as for Wikileaks, thus far little has been released which would do any real damage to the Western powers. In fact, much of it actually fits into their agenda rather nicely. There may be more to come of course, but as things stand, I doubt anyone in Washington or London is too upset over what amounts to diplomatic tittle-tattle.

Did he commit espionage
Most legal experts say no.
 

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Mr. Assange and Wikileaks have done the world a major service by casting light on some of the dirty dealings that those in power want to keep concealed from us. One cannot know the truth of the rape allegations against Assange, but it can not be ruled out that he is the victim of a set up by those who believe, wrongly, that they can silence Wikileaks that way.

As for wishing that he be "dealt with" by Mossad, the murder machine of the zionazi rogue state abomination, that will not solve anything in the long run.

The highly repected Indian daily The Hindu had an interesting editorial on the latest disclosures yesterday. It is very interesting reading:

The Hindu : Opinion / Editorial : The public has a right to know

Some excerpts (boldfacing/italics mine):

"But both provide a much-needed glimpse into the real world — especially the real and often illegitimate interests that lie hidden behind the diplomatic niceties, political correctness, and corporate PR that dominate international and domestic messaging. The leaks we have seen and those that are yet to come are unlikely to alter any of fundamental balances. Nevertheless, it is also true that as a result of these disclosures, the task of those who use misinformation, manipulation, and deception in the exercise of global, political, and corporate power has become a wee bit harder. That is why legal and even strong-arm tactics — the cyber equivalent of which is hacking and denial of service attacks — have been employed to stop this information from being made public.In the case of WikiLeaks — a not-for-profit media organisation that says its goal is “to bring important news and information to the public” — its founder, Julian Assange, has found himself at the receiving end of police investigations and other more subtle forms of harassment...


If newspapers are the first draft of history, the cables are the manuscripts and marginal notations that go into the making of that first draft. What we are seeing then, in a small way admittedly, is the democratisation of information as well as the production of information. The world, and our knowledge of it, would be impoverished if WikiLeaks and other channels of communication between whistleblowers and the rest of us were to be shut down or terminated.

The diplomatic cables provide a fascinating glimpse into the world that floats below the surface of headlines...

On a more serious note, it is essential that analysts and policymakers pay close attention to the political content of the leaked cables. The candour used in these dispatches may offend some and titillate others but they reveal a nation at sea in a world that is no longer willing to march to its tune.
 

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One cannot know the truth of the rape allegations against Assange, but it can not be ruled out that he is the victim of a set up by those who believe, wrongly, that they can silence Wikileaks that way.
As far as I know, he was not actually accused of rape, but of a lesser charge such as 'improper sexual conduct' or something odd like that. Sweden has a rather idiosyncratic law which allows a woman (and presumably also a man) to 'withdraw consent' after the event, but it does not neccessarily equate to rape. Also, it's worth pointing out that Assange has not actually been formally charged with any crime in Sweden.

As for wishing that he be "dealt with" by Mossad, the murder machine of the zionazi rogue state abomination, that will not solve anything in the long run.
Not even sure why Mossad would want to 'deal with' Asasnge. thus far the revelations have been very favourable to Israel - witness Lie Chaim's post about the Yahoo pouncing on them hours after they were released. Of course, what we have seen thus far may be just a curtain raiser and there may be much more yet to come from Wikileaks.
 

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I'm still not sure a to what end this "whistle blowing" serves. I mean, if he did have proof that 9/11 was an inside job or that Obama is actually a GOP plant or something interesting like that. But all it's done is cause trouble which will serve no other purpose but embarras the US.
 

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What Wikileaks have done is ripped away the curtain of pretence which the US govt and it's supporters worked behind. We now have people out actually calling for the murder of a fellow human being, for the simple 'crime' of letting the world know how govts operate. Those on the right who are calling for the murder of Mr Assange are no better than the terrorists which they pretend to be morally superior than. Highlighting this is another great service Mr Assange has provided the world with.
 

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FoxNews.com - Interpol Issues Arrest Warrant for WikiLeaks Founder Julian Assange

I think arrest is the least of his problems. I would not want various security agencies looking to resolve the Assange probllem.
Quoting Faux News as a source, lol. Sweden issued the warrant at the behest of the US. Very handy timing don't you think? :rolleyes: You make the false assumption that various intelligence agencies are going all out, guns blazing to get Assange, simply not the case. If they wanted him dead or believed it would serve their own interests he would be dead. He is an annoyance to them but as an individual he is not a major threat, whether he is in the picture or not wikileaks and the leaks from it would continue. It isn't as though the only person with a flashdrive is Mr.Assange, lol.
 

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If governments didn't say in private, what they wouldn't say in public, there wouldn't be a issue here. There lies the flaw in all this, the fundamental dishonesty of governance and diplomacy, which works against the accountability of democratic governments.
 

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Lots of stuff is coming out of those cables that is only now being put together.

For example - in Brazil at the behest of the US government the Brazilian government framed innocent people they suspected of having ties to groups the US doesn't like. They framed these people and put them in prison for life, for crimes they didn't commit.

http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/articles/2010/Cablegate-Brazil-frames-suspected.html

One of many revelations that are now coming out.
 

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I look forward to Wilileaks and Assange releasing confidential Chinese, Russian, Iranian and North Korean documents. Of course then Assange would really have to worry about where he slept (not just with whom he slept). I suspect however he has little interest in exposing the misdeeds of these countries - that kind of truth telling doesn't sell with the 'liberal' set.
 

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PFC Bradley Manning currently in solitary confinement who leaked the video of an American helicopter crew taking out insurgents and more than 250,000 documents is facing 52 years in jail after Adrian Lamo, a government informant, turned him in.

Assange is wary about visiting the United States or returning to Australia because he could face charges and he is facing charges of rape, sexual molestation and unlawful coercion in relation to two women he met after seminars in Sweden.
One of the women organised one of the seminars and news conferences in Sweden and is a member of the Swedish Social Democrat Party and he was staying at her house at the timer.
Assange claims the charges are baseless and claims the unprotected sex with both women was consensual.
On Nov 30 Interpol issued a red notice against him.
Assange is in deep sh*t.
 

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Lots of stuff is coming out of those cables that is only now being put together.

For example - in Brazil at the behest of the US government the Brazilian government framed innocent people they suspected of having ties to groups the US doesn't like. They framed these people and put them in prison for life, for crimes they didn't commit.

http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/articles/2010/Cablegate-Brazil-frames-suspected.html

One of many revelations that are now coming out.
There is nothing in that link that says people were framed and put in prison for life. Instead is say terrorists were charged with drug offenses rather then terror offenses to play down the terror threat. They may very well have been guilty of drug offenses in order to raise funds for their terror activites. Neither does it say this was at the behest of the US government and in fact it gives the impression that US officials were frustrated that terror charges were not been brought.

"The Federal Police will often arrest individuals with links to terrorism, but will charge them on a variety of non-terrorism related crimes to avoid calling attention of the media and the higher levels of the government. Over the past year the Federal Police has arrested various individuals engaged in suspected terrorism financing activity but have based their arrests on narcotics and customs charges".
 


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