Yemen. Another disaster zone. Islamic politics, war/conflict, intervention.

enochpowell

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"If we let everyone from Yemen move to europe then there will be no people left to fight in Yemen"

~ Angela Merkel (probably)
 


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An article today from an Indian news-outlet

The statistics are chilling. Since the bombing started in March 2015, over 6,400 people have been killed, half of them civilians, according to the World Health Organisation. More than 30,000 people have been left injured, and about 2.5 million remain displaced. An estimated 9.4 million Yemeni children are in urgent need of humanitarian aid, as the country grapples with food, power and water shortages. These numbers suggest that Yemen, a country of 24 million people, is facing one of the worst humanitarian crises in its modern history.
Soft on Saudi Arabia
 

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No doubt the current chair of Human Rights in the UN is pondering how to help those affected by the debacle.......
 

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It is time to put an end to realpolitik. The power, wealth or influence of a human rights abuser should not grant them a pass.

Realpolitik has infested the UN deeply which means they only focus on Assad, Gaddafi - people like that.
 

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Saudis recently done a deal with the US for over a billion worth in tanks not sure how many tanks that gets you.
 

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Saudis recently done a deal with the US for over a billion worth in tanks not sure how many tanks that gets you.
It also gets you lots of US support at the UN and a free pass on human rights abuses.
 

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Trump now owns the war in Yemen.

Twice he has vetoed Senate resolutions stopping US involvement.

The war has been the world's greatest humanitarian disaster, at the Saudi-backed Government forces pressed Houthi rebels in the North of the county.

But now a new front has opened up - around Aden, a breakaway faction has captured the city from the Government. There is now a civil war within one side of the conflict, and the war will fester and be prolonged.

The Trump=MBS led war has turned into a quagmire, another disastrous result of the carry-on this duo have been getting away with.


 

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Trump now owns the war in Yemen.

Twice he has vetoed Senate resolutions stopping US involvement.

The war has been the world's greatest humanitarian disaster, at the Saudi-backed Government forces pressed Houthi rebels in the North of the county.

But now a new front has opened up - around Aden, a breakaway faction has captured the city from the Government. There is now a civil war within one side of the conflict, and the war will fester and be prolonged.

The Trump=MBS led war has turned into a quagmire, another disastrous result of the carry-on this duo have been getting away with.


The first article gives some hope that the Saudis will find themselves on their own and might have no choice but to leave.
 

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The first article gives some hope that the Saudis will find themselves on their own and might have no choice but to leave.
That in itself might not be enough.

Besides, that would leave Iran's allies, the Houthi, in place.

The rebels around Aden are supported by the UAR, so it is another complication in the Middle East jigsaw.

A peace settlement with the major players would be the best solution,


Could the Trump Administration drive the warring factions to a solution, like the Clinton Administration did in Yugoslavia? Doubt it. Trump just wants to be a weapons salesman, and sub-contract the rough stuff to the Saudis.
 

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Now that the UAE forces are going home, Yemen looks like it is heading for repartition

The northern highlands were a headache for the Ottomans for centuries. With its endless wars, the nation’s story sounds quite like Afghanistan. Some accommodation with the Houthis will have to be arrived at and it is clear that Aden wants out. Two states sounds like the least worst solution.
 

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Now that the UAE forces are going home, Yemen looks like it is heading for repartition



The northern highlands were a headache for the Ottomans for centuries. With its endless wars, the nation’s story sounds quite like Afghanistan. Some accommodation with the Houthis will have to be arrived at and it is clear that Aden wants out. Two states sounds like the least worst solution.
Afghanistan is a good comparison. I was in what was then North Yemen in the 1970s, and the northern people, identified as "tribesmen", were a big problem for the central government. All the cities were ringed by road blocks with armed men, and the surrounding countryside was bandit country. As well as the "frozen conflict" with "the tribes", close to a state of war existed between North and South Yemen (ruled from Aden, for a while the only Arab country that embraced communism).

That seemed to die away, North and South Yemen united in a single state, but I guess many in the South still resent "unity". The Northern "tribes" emerged united as the Houthis, with severe grievances against the central government. it is a return to the three-cornered duel of the 1970s, though Houthis and the Aden separatists have a common enemy.

One thing we were often told is that Saudi Arabia always regards Yemen as a strategic threat, like Lowland Scots looking at warlike Highland clans. Control of Yemen will always be a driver of Saudi policy. Under MBS, that seems to have ratcheted up many notches.

However, it is looking as if his plans have blown up in his face. As a drain on resources, and a destroyer of Saudi's reputation (never very high), it looks like the KSA may pay a higher price than anticipated.

 

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