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Your religion can mean you're out of a Job


Cruimh

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This mornings Belfast Telegraph:am - not online - has a front page story describing how a Fair Employment Tribunal awarded a teacher £8,250 compensation for religious discrimination.

Ballykelly Primary School in Londonderry selected 4 teachers for redundancy - all protestant. Catholic teachers who had taught at the school for less time than the complainant did not lose their jobs.

" A Fair Employment Tribunal ruled the former P3 teacher had suffered discrimination after Catholic pupils began outnumbering protestants at the school.

One of the redundancy priorities at the school, proposed by Limavady parish priest governor Fr Michael Collins, was centred round the school's "ethos", which said staffing should be in line with the religious mix of the pupils.
 
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Supermanpolitician

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This mornings Belfast Tekegraph:am - not online - has a front page story describing how a Fair Employment Tribunal awarded a teacher £8,250 compensation for religious discrimination.

Ballykelly Primary School in Londonderry selected 4 teachers for redundancy - all protestant. Catholic teachers who had taught at the school for less time than the complainant did not lose their jobs.
Eh...surely if she were awarded compensation the headline thread title should read that you can't lose your job because of religion?

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imokyrok

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This mornings Belfast Tekegraph:am - not online - has a front page story describing how a Fair Employment Tribunal awarded a teacher £8,250 compensation for religious discrimination.

Ballykelly Primary School in Londonderry selected 4 teachers for redundancy - all protestant. Catholic teachers who had taught at the school for less time than the complainant did not lose their jobs.
Hope the other three teachers get compensation too. You didn't give a link. Was the teacher reinstated?
 

Riadach

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That's an unholy disgrace. I'm just worried with our equality legislation, that had it occurred in Dublin, it wouldn't have even reached a tribunal.
 

inthemire

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Protestant teacher awarded £8,250 over redundancy - The Irish Times - Tue, Jul 06, 2010 heres the IT link

Bizarre comments regarding the Board of Governors perception that Fair Employment legislation didn't apply to the process in which they were involved...???

What was the process? Selection of people to be made redundant?
Should Fair Employment legislation apply to this? No, because it's to do with unemployment, not Employment???

This sounds like something from Leaders' Questions in Dail Eireann.

Terribly sad really.
 

Portstewart

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Do you still have to seek approval from a priest to get a job teaching in a Catholic school?

Religious descrimination alive and well in NI it would seem.
 

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The logical thing to do is make all public NI schools blind to religion altogether. If the govt refuse to do that, and you do get an established "ethos" being taught in schools, then it's hard to blame the schools for basing hiring/firing decisions around religion. A symptom of a problem rather than a problem itself.
 

imokyrok

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The logical thing to do is make all public NI schools blind to religion altogether. If the govt refuse to do that, and you do get an established "ethos" being taught in schools, then it's hard to blame the schools for basing hiring/firing decisions around religion. A symptom of a problem rather than a problem itself.
Good point. I've often wondered is it possible for an atheist to become a principal of a Catholic school in Ireland (ie. the vast majority of schools). Anyone know?
 

Baron von Biffo

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Good point. I've often wondered is it possible for an atheist to become a principal of a Catholic school in Ireland (ie. the vast majority of schools). Anyone know?
It's possible. If the local bishop agrees.

If the referenced case happened here the teacher would have had no right to compensation as schools are allowed to do pretty much anything to preserve their 'ethos.' Teachers can be sacked for their religion, sexuality or if their domestic arrangements offend the clergy.
 

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Good point. I've often wondered is it possible for an atheist to become a principal of a Catholic school in Ireland (ie. the vast majority of schools). Anyone know?

I am sure there are plenty of atheists working as principals and teachers in Catholic schools - but I suspect most pretend to believe in Catholicism.
 

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The Catholic Church should be removed from the control of schools, north and south. How come they managed to gain control of this mixed school anyway?
 

Delarivier

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The headmaster of one large Catholic School in Co Londonderry is a Protestant.
A board of management might look more favourably on someone who was a practicing member of another Christian denomination than on someone who made a big deal out of open unbelief. In a sensible world a candidate's skills and qualifications should be the deciding factor, not their religion or lack of it. We really should have moved on from this in 2010...
 

Toblakai

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Thats how it was for Catholics for the majority of the existence of the state of Northern Ireland. Paybacks a bitch and in this case, my heart really doesnt bleed for her in the slightest.

A bit like the whites in South Africa whining now about inequality - they were past masters in teaching and now that the pupil has learned their lesson well, its not going down to good. Tough luck.
 

Ard Eoin

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The Catholic Church should be removed from the control of schools, north and south. How come they managed to gain control of this mixed school anyway?

+1

no religion should have control/influence in either schools or government....
 

sharpcut

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Thats how it was for Catholics for the majority of the existence of the state of Northern Ireland. Paybacks a bitch and in this case, my heart really doesnt bleed for her in the slightest.

A bit like the whites in South Africa whining now about inequality - they were past masters in teaching and now that the pupil has learned their lesson well, its not going down to good. Tough luck.
Refreshing honesty. Hope to hear more of it...
 
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