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Your thoughts of the abortion hearings


blackrabbit

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Jerry Buttimer has been praised for his chairing to the Joint Committee on Health and Children hearing this week

How do else do you think is worth a mention, from within the committee or those presenting to it, both good and bad Life and choice and do you think it will change anything
 

meriwether

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I thought it was good. It has changed my perception on the Seanad.

It has also made up my mind that the legislation is required.

So, yes, it was beneficial all round.
 

FakeViking

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I thought it was good. It has changed my perception on the Seanad.

It has also made up my mind that the legislation is required.

So, yes, it was beneficial all round.
But it wasn't the Seanad, the Health Committee just borrowed that room.

It was certainly a worthwhile process, fair dues to all involved.
 

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I thought it was good. It has changed my perception on the Seanad.
it was a committee not the seanad even if it was in the seanad, expert witnesses appear at the committee all the time, and often interesting, although i think regular committees the politicians get a bit more time to showboat and waffle, buttimer was much stricter but he should get off his high horse really try be a bit more humble as he's a member of a legistlator that failed to legislate on this issue for 20+ years


how many people watch this live and how many afterwards, think it was good they get the footage up on youtube so quickly usually takes much longer or more awkward to access

i do think it was party window dressing, a steam release on the issue, but maybe that no such bad thing they were informative but the gov have pretty much already decided what to do
 
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Astral Peaks

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"thoughts on the abortion hearings." surely?
 

Astral Peaks

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It was instructive that the non-adversial set up provoked such a valuable exercise, while the only disruption to that was two Senators having a trite barney.
 

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Too much opinion. I thought most of the experts I saw based their presentations on their own personal feelings towards abortion rather than their expertise. I didn't see all of it though. Ultimately it was a box ticking exercise for the government.
 

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Overall very informative. Held in a civil manner and all had their say.

I had issues with the selection of the "legal experts on day two" discussed here.
http://www.politics.ie/forum/current-affairs/203964-bar-council-ireland-fail-attend-abortion-hearing.html

And thought two Senators let the side down a little.
http://www.politics.ie/forum/current-affairs/204043-politicians-letting-side-down.html

Mr Buttimer had a tough job and deserves some praise for the manner in which he handled the sessions. I do wonder if it would have been better held after legislation was proposed? Was it simply a box ticking exercise for government?
 

ger12

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Too much opinion. I thought most of the experts I saw based their presentations on their own personal feelings towards abortion rather than their expertise. I didn't see all of it though. Ultimately it was a box ticking exercise for the government.
You can catch up with the sessions you missed if you wish here ... Committee Playback - Tithe an Oireachtais
 

ger12

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The doctors and specialists had a lot of interesting and informative things to say.

The nutters yesterday... didn't.

It was good that the nutters were herded in on the same day.
Which nutters, the Pro-life or Pro-choice ones?
 

theObserver@hotmail.com

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I thought it went through the motions effectively enough. The final outcome was never in doubt and the various groups said what they were expected to say.
 

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I think the catholic church should have sent someone who has a better understanding of pregnant women
 

Rocky

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I thought it was very good. A great idea.

I don't know if anything like it has been done before, but I have no memory of it. It's a great way of using Committees, giving the Oireachtas and TDs a bigger role and giving the various interest groups a role in forming legalisation and giving them a chance to have their say. It really gave backbench and opposition TDs a chance to do something constructive as well.

I think we should see a lot more of it and it should be the first process in the formation of all serious legalisation and if that was to happen, it would be a great step in improving the Oireachtas and probably the biggest one in god knows how long.
 

stopdoingstuff

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Before the hearings, I was opposed to abortion, but I now I want to be an abortion doctor and rip those little fkrs right out.
 

meriwether

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Before the hearings, I was opposed to abortion, but I now I want to be an abortion doctor and rip those little fkrs right out.
While wearing a hat made from foetus's, and then drop kicking them into a waste paper basket post extraction.
 
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