Zionism forces the resignation of Professor Peter Schafer from the Berlin Jewish Museum.

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The truth is it was the Turkish sultan that allowed Jews into Palestine under the Tanzimat reforms to begin with.
 


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The truth is it was the Turkish sultan that allowed Jews into Palestine under the Tanzimat reforms to begin with.
So when the Turks invade it's not imperialism or colonialism ? Or the Mamaluks or any of the other invaders. Only the Jews are colonialists.
 

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So when the Turks invade it's not imperialism or colonialism ? Or the Mamaluks or any of the other invaders. Only the Jews are colonialists.
The Jews were tolerated better under pre-1947 Arab regimes than the Palestinians Arabs are under Israeli control. The Zionist leaders unfortunately decided to interpret "Jewish state" in an exclusivist sense, with non Jews treated as second class citizens. Parallels with Milosevic's Serbia and Voerwords South Africa.
 

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Nonsense, as always.

The bro-nazi arabs, who were led by the nazi amin el husseini, tried to exterminate the jews, and committed many atrocities against the Jews. The best-known one is the pogrom against the Jewish community of Hebron 90 years ago, after which there was no Jew left in that city.

That was the first in a series of ethnic cleansings of the Jews from Judea, Samaria and Gaza.

That's how the Jews were excluded from that area, until they had the opportunity to get back there in 1967.

The Arabs, who now call themselves Palestinians had the feeling that they can commit a genocide against the Jews back then, with the support of the Brits.

Now they feel the same with the support of the new nazis, the leftistics in Europe, and their sycophants from amongst the American jews.
 

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I don't think its helpful to the peace process to be going on about something that happened 90 years ago that cannot be changed. Both sides have legitimate historical grievances, but whining about them is not going to change anything today. The Zionists have to accept that they are not the only ones with a right to live in the former British Mandate of Palestine. Likewise the Palestinians have to accept that Israel as a state isn't going away. As the NI peace process shows, slogans and broken-record type rehashing of disputed versions of history are a dead end and will just lead to more deaths and ultimately will only serve to delegitimise Israel by its own hand, just as the sectarian Old Stormont and RUC-Loyalist collusion delegitimised NI before the GFA.
 

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I don't think its helpful to the peace process to be going on about something that happened 90 years ago that cannot be changed. Both sides have legitimate historical grievances, but whining about them is not going to change anything today. The Zionists have to accept that they are not the only ones with a right to live in the former British Mandate of Palestine. Likewise the Palestinians have to accept that Israel as a state isn't going away. As the NI peace process shows, slogans and broken-record type rehashing of disputed versions of history are a dead end and will just lead to more deaths and ultimately will only serve to delegitimise Israel by its own hand, just as the sectarian Old Stormont and RUC-Loyalist collusion delegitimised NI before the GFA.

The truth is it was the Turkish sultan that allowed Jews into Palestine under the Tanzimat reforms to begin with.
????

You are "going on about something" that had happened long ago.

The zionists don't have to accept anything from terrorists and their supporters!

The zionists have paid with blood to create the Jewish state, just because the other side didn't accept they had the right to exist. So now, the zionists fulfill their right to live everywhere in the land of Israel as enshrined in the text of the British mandate, written by the LoN's.
 

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You are "going on about something" that had happened long ago.

The zionists don't have to accept anything from terrorists and their supporters!

The zionists have paid with blood to create the Jewish state, just because the other side didn't accept they had the right to exist. So now, the zionists fulfill their right to live everywhere in the land of Israel as enshrined in the text of the British mandate, written by the LoN's.
Ian Paisley used to go on like this about not making any concessions to Irish Republicans in NI. Eventually he had to. So will you have to make concessions to the Palestinians or your statelet will be overwhelmed by the impending Arab majority.
 

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So when the Turks invade it's not imperialism or colonialism ? Or the Mamaluks or any of the other invaders. Only the Jews are colonialists.
The Ottoman Empire gave people in general a lot of autonomy. It also did not alter the demographic reality of Palestine in the way that Zionist colonialism has done- also over all the Ottomans who were perfect Saints if you compare them to the sadistic cruelty that has been the defining feature of Zionist colonialism since it's emergence in the Holy Land.
 

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Ian Paisley used to go on like this about not making any concessions to Irish Republicans in NI. Eventually he had to. So will you have to make concessions to the Palestinians or your statelet will be overwhelmed by the impending Arab majority.
We did twice.

It doesn't work with rejectionists like the so called Palestinians, whose rejectionism is fed by European narcissist leftistics.

We have already been overwhelmed by the arab majority, after all we live amongs a billion muslim arabs.

But we are not going to compromise our existence, just because we ruin the ideal picture of some in the EU.
 

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In this new, very wide-ranging interview (more than one hour), Israeli journalist Guy Tal probes a lot of issues with David Icke, including what's happening in Israel at the moment. I think the two of them have great insights. The fact that the mainstream media portray Icke as an anti-semitic lunatic tells its own story.

 

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The Jews were tolerated better under pre-1947 Arab regimes than the Palestinians Arabs are under Israeli control. The Zionist leaders unfortunately decided to interpret "Jewish state" in an exclusivist sense, with non Jews treated as second class citizens. Parallels with Milosevic's Serbia and Voerwords South Africa.
What pre 1947 Arab regimes were there ? Once Iraq got independence from the Ottomans Jews began to be terrorised. Same in Cairo. Don't equate the Ottomans with Arab nationalists.
 

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What pre 1947 Arab regimes were there ? Once Iraq got independence from the Ottomans Jews began to be terrorised. Same in Cairo. Don't equate the Ottomans with Arab nationalists.
Egypt was de facto separate from the Ottomans since the late 1800s as a British protectorate. There were 48000 Jews in Egypt before the war broke out in 1947. Everything points to the 1947 war as the starting point for the exodus of Jews and Arabs from the Arab world and from present day Israel.
 

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What pre 1947 Arab regimes were there ? Once Iraq got independence from the Ottomans Jews began to be terrorised. Same in Cairo. Don't equate the Ottomans with Arab nationalists.
Zionist colonialism might have something to have had to do with that rather than the Ottomans going? There is some truth in your narrative, however it was not as bad as you would claim in Iraq at all. Egypt is a more complex story. It's not like though you want the re-integration of Levantine Jewry into the wider region because that would mean you could not have your fun.
 

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In this new, very wide-ranging interview (more than one hour), Israeli journalist Guy Tal probes a lot of issues with David Icke, including what's happening in Israel at the moment. I think the two of them have great insights. The fact that the mainstream media portray Icke as an anti-semitic lunatic tells its own story.

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Just sayin...
 

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What pre 1947 Arab regimes were there ? Once Iraq got independence from the Ottomans Jews began to be terrorised. Same in Cairo. Don't equate the Ottomans with Arab nationalists.
Maybe Dame Enda didn't hear about the Farhood, and the pogroms that have been committed by the Arabs since, well, ever...

The Farhood was a set of pogroms against the Jews of Baghdad, and in the slaughter and rape there, the Jews understood there is no place for them there.

And no, the Jews don't have to ask the Arab superior race whether they can have a self determination. Pre-1947 and afterwards - well, it doesn't matter, the arabs don't recognize the other.
 

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How do you define this Semitism that I am supposed to be so much against?
They really don't mind anti semitism....the far right..or racism.
Pro-Zionism is the only respectable form of anti-Semitism today, one that is welcomed by the Israeli government and pro-Zionist white nationalists everywhere...the hasbara trolls can't get their heads around those facts.
There is no stopping the fascist,racist Netanyahu...as he cheers on Europes far right leaders in the European elections.
'Good Luck to Viktor Orban... Nigel Farage...Matteo Salvinimi..and Geert Wilders'

Apartheid israel ....which was built on ethnic cleansing and racism ....is welcoming in the new generation of neo-fascists.


 


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